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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 04:02 PM
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Poll question: Can you make it to the door in nine seconds?
Edited on Thu May-06-10 04:15 PM by Uncle Joe
If you're sleeping, on the toilet, in the shower, have the television/radio turned up loud, hard of hearing, or elderly will you make it to the door within 9 seconds?

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Edit to add the Fourth Amendment

The Fourth Amendment to the Constitution.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation and particualary describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.




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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 04:03 PM
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1. No
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 04:04 PM
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2. Hell yes, I'd be there in about 7 seconds with a loaded M1 Garand rifle
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 04:08 PM
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4. What if you don't hear them?
Maybe you don't hear the first knock which could your chance to answer time down to 6 seconds, or you may not hear them at all until they bust in the door.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 04:20 PM
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6. Then my Attack Cats will tear them to shreds
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 04:30 PM
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9. Your cat; probably stands a better chance of not getting shot seven times than a family dog, as
Edited on Thu May-06-10 04:33 PM by Uncle Joe
it would rub up against their legs, but at least you're protected from moles.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 04:41 PM
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15. That was a pocket gopher, but I get your drift
:hi:
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PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 04:34 PM
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13. Seems to be the only way to deal with the cowards.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 04:06 PM
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3. I'm 66, don't hear too well and have been known to take a shower now and then.



I think those assholes would be talking to my lawyer.


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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 04:12 PM
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5. Id be too busy flushing the coke down the toilet
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 04:26 PM
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7. Thanks for the edit, Uncle Joe! And here's Carlin:
"YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS"

If your rights can be ignored/taken away, you don't actually 'have' them, you instead have a bill of Temporary Privileges.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWiBt-pqp0E
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 04:32 PM
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10. Thanks for the link, Echo In Light.
thumbsup:
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 04:34 PM
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12. Our Militarized Police Departments ...
Testimony before the House Subcommittee on Crime

Mr. Chairman, distinguished members of the committee, thank you for inviting me to speak today.

I’m here to talk about police militarization, a troubling trend that’s been on the rise in America’s police departments over the last 25 years.

Militarization is a broad term that refers to using military-style weapons, tactics, training, uniforms, and even heavy equipment by civilian police departments.

It’s a troubling trend because the military has a very different and distinct role than our domestic peace officers. The military’s job is to annihilate a foreign enemy. The police are supposed to protect us while upholding our constitutional rights. It’s dangerous to conflate the two.

But that’s exactly what we’re doing. Since the late 1980s, Mr. Chairman, thanks to acts passed by the U.S. Congress, millions of pieces of surplus military equipment have been given to local police departments across the country.

We’re not talking just about computers and office equipment. Military-grade semi-automatic weapons, armored personnel vehicles, tanks, helicopters, airplanes, and all manner of other equipment designed for use on the battlefield is now being used on American streets, against American citizens.

Academic criminologists credit these transfers with the dramatic rise in paramilitary SWAT teams over the last quarter century.

SWAT teams were originally designed to be used in violent, emergency situations like hostage takings, acts of terrorism, or bank robberies. From the late 1960s to the early 1980s, that’s primarily how they were used, and they performed marvelously.

But beginning in the early 1980s, they’ve been increasingly used for routine warrant service in drug cases and other nonviolent crimes. And thanks to the Pentagon transfer programs, there are now a lot more of them.

This is troubling because paramilitary police actions are extremely volatile, necessarily violent, overly confrontational, and leave very little margin for error. These are acceptable risks when you’re dealing with an already violent situation featuring a suspect who is an eminent threat to the community.

But when you’re dealing with nonviolent drug offenders, paramilitary police actions create violence instead of defusing it. Whether you’re an innocent family startled by a police invasion that inadvertently targeted the wrong home or a drug dealer who mistakes raiding police officers for a rival drug dealer, forced entry into someone’s home creates confrontation. It rouses the basest, most fundamental instincts we have in us – those of self-preservation – to fight when flight isn’t an option.

Peter Kraska, a criminologist at the University of Eastern Kentucky, estimates we’ve seen a startling 1,500 percent increase in the use of SWAT teams in this country from the early 80s until the early 2000s. And the vast majority of these SWAT raids are for routine warrant service.

These violent raids on American homes, when coupled with the imperfect, often ugly methods used in drug policing, have set the stage for disturbingly frequent cases of police raiding the homes not only of recreational, nonviolent drug users, but the homes of people completely innocent of any crime at all.

Cont...

http://reason.com/archives/2007/07/02/our-militarized-police-departm
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 04:47 PM
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17. I'm glad you bolded that sentence, the dysfunctional, illogical and insane so called
"War Against Drugs" was greatly magnified if not instigated by this so called champion of smaller government, that being Reagan.



"But beginning in the early 1980s, they’ve been increasingly used for routine warrant service in drug cases and other nonviolent crimes. And thanks to the Pentagon transfer programs, there are now a lot more of them."



Reagan truly believed that "Government is the problem" and he did his best to make this self-fulfilling prophecy a reality with great success.

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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 04:43 PM
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16. Saw George Carlin a month before he died
and that was the strongest lesson I took from his performance that evening.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 05:04 PM
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19. My wife & I luckily caught one of his 'make up' shows due to his heart troubles
He was 'on' nonetheless
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PSzymeczek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 05:26 PM
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21. Hubster and I saw him live twice.
The first time, we had 10th row seats.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 05:34 PM
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22. We were way up in the upper balcony
yet his words were as powerful as if he were standing a couple of feet away from us. We lost a great man after his passing.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 04:29 PM
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8. I don't need to, I have hidden cameras and trapdoors all around the place.
I won't say where they lead to or what is down in the bottom, classified.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 04:32 PM
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11. GMTA
Perhaps we should share tips with each other on ways to further fortify our "castles" some time. :fistbump:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 04:37 PM
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14. Good idea, do you prefer hills&moats or deep cavern environments?
I decided to build my new house inside a mountain/volcano (deep cavern) AND the moat is LAVA!!! LAVA!!! Ironically thermal heating is a nice touch to go with the boiling oil. :hi:
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 04:55 PM
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18. However long it takes me to find & put on a bra.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 05:05 PM
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20. shit
it takes my old beat up ass longer than that to get up off the couch :crazy:
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 05:45 PM
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23. Whenever i see the cops at my house, they usually just barge in
or kick in the door.

No arrests, though, I usually talk them out of it (I know, I know, I should keep my mouth shut. But my dad was a cop here, and they know me. It's better to be friendly.)
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 05:47 PM
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24. What the fuck do they think you're doing in there?
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 05:55 PM
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25. once they thought we were a hippie gang threatening people with a gun
Edited on Thu May-06-10 05:59 PM by librechik
They brought the SWAT Team and surrounded the house! It was a big open house party upstairs, and one of the "guests" was out front, drunk, waving a couple of holstered six guns around--When the cops showed up, he ran inside the building and wound up in my place, where he stashed his revolvers under my coffee table, (all unknown to me)--cops wanted those guns! So I said take em, don't know who they belong to! They did and left, somewhat safely, taking Drunk Shooter with them...

Once a cop said he got a 911 call from my number. The front door was open, so I came out of the back of the house to see a uniform in my front room, looking to save lives! Still don't know what that was about; I didn't make any call.

Thats two off the top of my head...
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 05:58 PM
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27. Drunk Hippies With Guns!
I just got an idea for a screenplay!
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 06:02 PM
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28. Don't forget my cut, if you ever write it
I could also be technical advisor, for a credit!

hee hee--good luck
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dems_rightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 05:55 PM
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26. No
Certainly not from the toilet...
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