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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 08:25 AM Original message |
CHANGE: 290,000 New Jobs Last Month |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
1. The birth/death model added 188k. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 08:31 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Can't handle the good news, can you? Last month's jobs data is adjusted just like |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 08:33 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I'm starting to think that some are only happy with bad news. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 08:34 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Spot on. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 09:02 AM Response to Reply #3 |
14. I like the reality based community, which doesn't include those guys |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:22 AM Response to Reply #14 |
48. +100,000 |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 09:06 AM Response to Reply #3 |
17. That's like, one of the key components of DU |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 09:08 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. I guess we can sing Always look on the bright side of life |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 09:56 AM Response to Reply #19 |
32. Yeah, because those are obviouslly the only two options |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 09:58 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. I'm more pragmatic than most of you |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:41 AM Response to Reply #34 |
42. Who's arguing that things aren't bad? |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:54 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. It is about 32k to 36k |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:23 PM Response to Reply #19 |
62. You are no longer living in the "reality based community", Jake... |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 08:40 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Yes march was adjusted about 80,000. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 08:46 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. More people are going back to looking for work because there are more jobs. You can "paint" it |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 08:46 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. ...and of course the 230,000 people who found private sector jobs are just a mirage,eh? |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 08:59 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. 180,000 positions were a statistical adjustment |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 09:01 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. In April? Cite for that? NT |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 09:03 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. What do you think the birth/death ratio is |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 09:24 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. ...ermmm...part of workforce size calculations rather than job numbers? |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 09:42 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. You do know this is a telephone survey correct |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:30 AM Response to Reply #27 |
36. Sure I do. Always has been, Know the MOE on a 50000 sample? NT |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:58 AM Response to Reply #36 |
44. You do understand sample size right? |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:31 AM Response to Reply #27 |
37. Oh and implied job gaimns are 550K. 290K is calculated form the sample so based on real gains. NT |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 08:57 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. That was a statement of fact |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 09:03 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. So please finally tell us |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 09:06 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. I've been critical of this report |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 09:25 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. New claims data are worthless without new hire data. NT |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 09:36 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. This doesn't really give you hard data on new hires |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:31 AM Response to Reply #26 |
38. ADP does not process all payrolls. Depends who is hiring. LOL. NT |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:33 AM Response to Reply #2 |
40. THere are people INVESTED |
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TheWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:14 AM Response to Reply #2 |
47. Delete. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 02:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
56. ihate |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 02:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
57. Now, don't go spoiling their distraction. How is one to lead a cheer |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
8. Underemployment, the true measure, ticked up to 17.1% |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 08:58 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Was it the true measure when it went down because people left the workforce |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 02:52 PM Response to Reply #10 |
60. I have always said so |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 08:58 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. 0.2% increase while jobs number nearly doubles... primarily due to people going back to *looking* |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 02:49 PM Response to Reply #11 |
59. I don't think you understand how this stuff works. |
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arcadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
20. Due to the Census hiring. |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 09:25 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. About 22% due to that actually. 231K private sector jobs added. NT |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 09:51 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Not really lol |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:32 AM Response to Reply #28 |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
24. The stock market should be up on this news... |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 09:57 AM Response to Reply #24 |
33. No, it shouldn't |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 09:59 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. I think it hates Currency devaluation in Europe nt. |
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Better Today (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:03 AM Response to Reply #33 |
46. But this report isn't based on facts, it's based on polling. |
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Better Today (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
25. berni, here's what I notice when these last two reports came out with that graph. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 09:52 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Nobody Will Touch That |
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SpartanDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 09:54 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. This is climate denier logic |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 09:55 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. New Jobs Are Being Created But Not At The Rate Needed To Bring The Jobless Rate Down |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 02:04 PM Response to Reply #31 |
58. Because more people are optimistic that the economy is turning and have started to look for work |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:34 AM Response to Reply #25 |
41. Hmm...Refute data with anecdotes? Nope sorry |
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Better Today (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:00 AM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Links please. If what you're saying is accurate, then either |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:24 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Last Time I Looked I Read There Are Six Applicants For Every Job |
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Better Today (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 01:50 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Not around here. Maybe it depends on the job??? All I know is |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
50. While unemployment rose from 9.7% to 9.9%. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:11 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Krugman has some words for you |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:40 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Paul is still talking |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 02:00 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Why Don't YOU Tell Us How Many Times He's "Bended And Contradicted Himself This Week..."? |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 08:51 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. I can't see what Ignored has said, but if they think what you quoted... |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
51. It's awesome news! Just what the country needs most. |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:24 PM Response to Reply #51 |
63. agreed n/t |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
64. big deal. The Canadians got 100,000 new jobs in March. |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:39 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. We had to come back from a much further decimation |
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