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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:21 AM Original message |
It's Time to End the Epidemic of Prisoner Rape |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
1. no words regarding this man's story |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:32 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. i know i need to post on this thread, i sit here with a blank on what to post. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:56 AM Response to Reply #3 |
15. I'm Glad I still Get Disgusted, because I never want to be Desensitized to this crap |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
19. Absolutely. I hate how the rape aspect of the prison system is somehow considered a perk in that |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:55 PM Response to Reply #19 |
31. I agree with you. n/t |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 08:54 AM Response to Reply #19 |
75. Exactly what I wanted to say -- you said it better -- "often treated as a joke" -- |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
2. It's also time for progressives to stop implying that prison rape is an appropriate consequence |
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Kitty Herder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:43 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Absolutely. nt |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:43 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. +1000 |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
27. most definitely n/t |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
32. Yup. n/t |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 01:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
43. +Graham's Number |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
64. Yup. It's not an appropriate consequence and not appropriate "I was just joking" material |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
67. I wanna rec this post. |
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Zix (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 02:10 AM Response to Reply #2 |
71. Absolutely with one adjustment... |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:31 AM Response to Reply #2 |
85. I completely agree. nt |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 12:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
88. There used to be a judge in Texas that pronounced sentences by saying, |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
4. Ending the US Prison State entirely might be a more efficient solution... nt |
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daleanime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Dead right on that.... |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
21. Great. We can just move all the violent offenders to your place nt |
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Flaneur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:35 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. About half of people in prison are violent offenders. |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. I responded to someone who made an unqualified statement |
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Flaneur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 01:23 PM Response to Reply #29 |
39. Shockingly, most violent offenders are released from prison at some point. |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 01:48 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. I don't want serial killers released. I don't want most killers released. |
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Flaneur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 02:26 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. Who said anything about releasing serial killers? |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 02:08 PM Response to Reply #29 |
46. You can't really believe the poster said |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:26 PM Response to Reply #29 |
62. No. There is a significant difference between imprisoning those who need to |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:49 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. Violent offenders like the check kiter in this story? |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 01:47 PM Response to Reply #30 |
41. What does "ending the prison state ENTIRELY" mean to you? nt |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 01:58 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Speaks to notion of it being a rigged game, a racket, carried out by corporate/state nexus |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 02:10 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. See my reply #46, above. nt |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 03:34 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Simple question: should murderers be locked up? |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 03:38 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. AND WHO THE FUCK IS SAYING THEY SHOULDN'T? |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 03:44 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. I quote from above: " Ending the US Prison State entirely" |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:28 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. Ending the PRISON STATE entirely is not the same as ending all imprisonment. |
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daleanime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 01:58 AM Response to Reply #56 |
69. It's nice that your not ashamed, I'm happy for you... |
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mntleo2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 10:28 AM Response to Reply #52 |
80. Murderers were running this country nobody locked them up...... |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:25 AM Response to Reply #80 |
83. great post! |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
22. Agree. But it's a self-perpetuating economy. Whatta ya gonna do with all those workers |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 10:51 AM Response to Reply #4 |
81. 1000 X what you said - we should educate not incarcerate |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
5. It's estimated 1 of 20 prisoners in Texas has been raped in prison. |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 01:17 PM Response to Reply #5 |
38. I agree. I thought we progressives were supposed to be compassionate..???!!!! n/t |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
65. Friend told me his brother was "made someone's wife" while in jail |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
6. Prison rape is simply part of the dystopia that we have created |
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DonCoquixote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
7. You cannot run a prison |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:14 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. Exactly |
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Kitty Herder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
9. K&R |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
11. I agree with the goal and the sentiment... |
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whereaminow (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:25 AM Response to Reply #11 |
84. First? End prohibition... NOW! |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
12. Our society sees rape in prison as part of the punishment |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
13. How about treating the offenders with chemical castration? |
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activa8tr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
25. of questionable Constitutionality, and Ineffective on some, and... |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 01:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
40. Doesn't do a bit to remediate the aggression of our culture, though, does it? |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
16. I Know In Many Major City Jails They Have Separate Housing For Vulnerable Males |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
17. And a whole lot of people here cheer this sort of thing. (nt) |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:12 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Pure Ignorance On Their Behalf |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:23 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. I can excuse genuine ignorance. But there's a helluva lot of cultivated bloodlust, too. |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 01:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
36. I dunno if I agree; I think it's malice instead. (nt) |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 03:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
55. I imagine that for the most part... |
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Cid_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:37 AM Response to Reply #17 |
87. For me its not so much a cheer... |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 12:14 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Close enough. (nt) |
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NikRik (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
23. When you about this in other countries..... |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
26. You came to the wrong place...numerous DUers revel in and promote rape as punishment |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:59 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. I agree. I'm always shocked at how many sadists are in America. n/t |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 01:01 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. Those DUers are outright, full-stop WRONG. |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #26 |
44. But only when a Republican is sent to jail. |
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Zix (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 02:08 AM Response to Reply #26 |
70. It's pretty revolting, but all you have to do is call them out on it. |
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Elder Hippie (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
33. How is prison rape not 'cruel and unusual punishment? |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 03:04 PM Response to Reply #33 |
50. life is full of cruel and unusual punishments |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 09:13 AM Response to Reply #33 |
77. .. and in many cases the rapes result in HIV/AIDS . .. |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
37. Heh heh heh. Don't drop the soap in the shower! Heh heh heh. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
48. Deleted message |
Bigmack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
51. I knew it... If I looked in Freepville... |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
54. Simple solution. Sentence more repukes to prison for their white-collar crimes. |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
57. K&R |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
58. And god dammit, quit making JOKES about it. |
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Zix (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 01:18 AM Response to Reply #58 |
68. I thhnk rape jokes are homophobic, actually. |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
59. What is with prisons that dump smaller, non-violent guys in the same cells as violent rapists? |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 05:27 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Oftentimes they do, but it probably depends heavily on location |
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frustrated_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
61. It's a complicated problem. |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
66. kick |
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Nipper1959 (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
72. As a former correctional officer and present Probation & Parole Agent |
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90-percent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
73. Connecticut radio spots of ten years ago |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
74. What, specifically, do you want Obama to do about it?... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
76. This is another taboo subject as far as I can see re MSM . . . |
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duhneece (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
78. So glad to see this post |
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90-percent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 10:18 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. American Drug Laws are medieval! |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
82. Welcome to prison land USA. |
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abq e streeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
86. Glad to see this post ( and devastated to read the story) |
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