Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Peter Peterson Wants to Cut Social Security

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 02:52 AM
Original message
Peter Peterson Wants to Cut Social Security
That could have been the title of this CNNMoney.com piece:

http://money.cnn.com/2010/05/11/pf/saving/social_security_reform/



The piece begins by quoting Robert Bixby, the director of the Concord Coalition, an organization that was founded by Peter Peterson and is still partially funded by him. Mr. Bixby described fixing Social Security as "low-hanging fruit" when it comes to deficit reduction. The piece then went on to Mr. Peterson himself: 'It would be a confidence builder with our foreign lenders,' said Pete...

Mr. Peterson's ability to assess what builds confidence with foreign investors or anyone else is somewhat questionable. He managed to somehow completely overlook an $8 trillion housing bubble, the collapse of which gave us the worst downturn in 70 years. Mr. Peterson's logic is also somewhat confused. If foreign investors lose confidence in the United States then the value of the dollar would fall relative to other currencies. This will make U.S. exports cheaper to foreigners and make foreign imports more expensive to people in the United States. The result would be that we would export more and import less. This improvement in the trade balance would increase employment and reduce the deficit. If the reporter has spoken to someone other than Mr. Peterson and his employees, she may have caught Mr. Peterson's mistaken logic and pointed it out to readers.

The rest of the piece is devoted to misrepresenting Social Security's financial situation... It then tells readers: "When the system takes in less than it has promised to pay out, the government will need to make up the difference by paying back the surplus revenue that has been paid into Social Security over the years, but which Uncle Sam spent on other things."

This is true in the same way that if Mr. Peterson spends the interest from government bonds that he owns or cashs in bonds that hit their expiration date -- rather than reinvesting the money in government bonds -- the government will need to make up the difference by paying back the money that Mr. Peterson has lent over the years, but which Uncle Sam spent on other things.

In other words, the article is implying that there is something sinister about a normal business practice. The Social Security trust fund bought government bonds with its surplus, just like private pension funds do, as well as wealthy individuals. Under the law, this money will be paid back to Social Security -- that is what governments do with their debts -- they pay them back -- unless they default.

http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/peter-peterson-wants-to-cut-social-security/#comments
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 04:23 AM
Response to Original message
1. So Peter Peterson is just another liar.
Why does he get so much press?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 04:26 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. Because he's the 149th richest man in the world. You gave him some of your social security
overpayments as tax cuts.

He wants to keep them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 05:46 AM
Response to Original message
3. Looking for some low hanging fruit, are we?
For starters we are spending $200,000 a minute in the sandbox.

Then we are spending another trillion dollars a year to keep the M-I-C pumping out 'stuff' to kill people.

$200,000 a minute is a good start, no?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 05:56 AM
Response to Original message
4. k&r nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 07:21 AM
Response to Original message
5. K&R
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 07:29 AM
Response to Original message
6. I Don't Worry Too Much
about citting SS. Politically, it's a total nonstarter. "Vote for Me, I supported cutting Grandma's benefits, and yours are next!!!" Somehow I think this is not going to play well....anywhere.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 07:50 AM
Response to Original message
7. Yeah, I want to cut me something too.

Ya ever heard of 'Bobbit', Pete?

This is getting real personal.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Mon May 13th 2024, 06:18 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC