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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 11:52 AM
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Cat lovers fear Ill. town plan would include pets (round up stray cats and euthanize)
Cat lovers fear Ill. town plan would include pets


LACON, Ill. (AP) -- Plans in the north-central Illinois town of Lacon (LAY'-kun) to round up stray cats and euthanize the animals have raised the hackles of local cat lovers.

Mayor Bob Weber says the city is considering an ordinance that would require that cats who aren't carrying a tag or something else that marks them as a pet to be euthanized. The ordinance comes after complaints from some residents.

Council member Les Hattan said at a Monday meeting that he's among those who complain. His wife doesn't like cats getting into her flower beds.

But animal lovers like Sherri Coghill fear that some pets will be caught and killed, too.

No decision has been made on the ordinance. Lacon is about 30 miles north of Peoria.

http://www.wbbm780.com/Cat-lovers-fear-Ill--town-plan-would-include-pets/7030923
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 11:54 AM
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1. This won't play well in Peoria.
I've been waiting a long time to say that germanely. :D
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 11:58 AM
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2. Turf the Hattans...eom
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 11:58 AM
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3. Brian Setzer has gone into hiding. nt
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 12:05 PM
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4. Oh, kill the kitties for your flower beds!
I mean, get a life.
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 12:07 PM
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5. so put a collar on your cat, but better yet, keep the god damn thing in your house and your yard...
then no worries, right?
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 12:12 PM
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6. Precisely
n/t
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 12:54 AM
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45. Collars are dangerous for cats. They get caught up and strangled.
I know of two this has happened two. I also had a cat go missing for two weeks and come home without her collar; she probably was trapped somewhere.

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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 12:15 PM
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7. It's heartbreaking to think of so many animals killed, strays and pets.
Edited on Wed May-12-10 12:16 PM by Walk away
But a solution to the feral cat problem isn't necessary just because someone doesn't want "cats in her flower beds". Feral cats carry disease that can infect pets and people too. They are a threat to birds and many live in pain and die of exposure or attack by wild animals.

The way to solve the problem is by Trap/Neuter/Release programs. Sadly, the reason these programs sometimes fail is that "cat lovers" continue to feed cats while communities try to run these programs. I watched as the hopes of volunteers were dashed and a kill program was instituted after people would not comply with the no feed rule. These same folks insisted that they were the "good guys" and that they could not stop feeding because they loved the cats even though they had helped to create the problem.

My neighborhood has a successful program. A terrible problem became a boon to the community. It took lots of good people to donate their time and effort but all of our ferals are vaccinated, neutered and notched. They have a great life, shelter and a feeding station and we have no mice.

The solution is and always has been in the hands of people who love animals but they have to act and not react.
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Teka Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 01:22 PM
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10. Trap/Neuter/Release is a farce
CATS DON'T BELONG OUTDOORS.

there is NO sucessful TNR program. You may think it is, but it is devasting the local wildlife.


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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 02:15 PM
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22. There are many successful TNR programs all over the country.
If fact there is a very successful program in Harmon Cove in the Meadowlands in New Jersey right now. Perhaps the people where you live are all like you and just don't want to make the effort and would prefer to kill as many cats as possible.




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Teka Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 02:34 PM
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27. Nope - TNR do nothing to help the local environment
There are still feral cats out there - which is the PROBLEM.
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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 02:56 PM
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32. I guess math isn't your strong suit. Working TNR programs cap the cat...
population and then nature takes care of the rest. I have seen feral communities of many hundred cats (soon to explode into thousands) be reduced to between thirty to forty cats and since some of those were older their populations are expected to decrease even more in short order.

Why you would prefer to achieve the same results by slaughtering these animals I have no idea. It takes a special kind of person to get so much apparent delight in killing animals.

While there are people like you spreading lies about how to control non indigenous populations and insisting massive killing is the only way, then people will take the cheap and easy way out.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 05:31 PM
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37. Judging solely on a single metric means that you have an agenda.
Try looking at the spay & release initiative from other perspectives before you claim it has done "nothing to help the local environment."
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 05:38 PM
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39. Cats don't belong outdoors?
I have cats , flower beds AND birds , all outdoors

Imagine that
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 12:16 PM
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8. Srsly, people are worried about kittehs enough to KILL them for pooping in the mulch?
Guess the economy's not as bad as I thought, if this is what keeps people up at night. I would hope stray dogs also get euthanized, then--fair is fair.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 01:19 PM
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9. There are feral cats where I live, but winter cuts their numbers down each year.
Some summers their population seems to get pretty high, but Montana winters are just too rough for little cats.

If I owned a dog or cat I would buy it a collar.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 02:24 PM
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26. What is it with people letting the cats out at night anyway?
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Teka Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 01:23 PM
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11. Good for Lacon - let's hope this spreads
Outdoor cats, even ones fed, kill billions of birds and other native wildlife.

The only good outdoor cat is a dead one.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 01:26 PM
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 01:34 PM
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14. To be honest, he has a valid point
Edited on Wed May-12-10 01:35 PM by LynneSin
Cats are rampent reproducers and not kept in check will multiply like crazy. I mean it's not like someone is putting out a giant bowl of kitten chow for these animals - they have to find their food somewhere.

Perhaps the law is harsh, I wish they would try a TNR program first. But I would hope if this does go forward that they have a top notch program to check all cats for collars & microchips before euthanizing.
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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 02:18 PM
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23. If they are too cheap and lazy to try TNR what makes you think...
they will set up a responcible program to protect pets?
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 03:12 PM
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35. Winter kills them off
We went through this crap in Akron a few years ago. Just because some people hate cats
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 04:54 PM
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36. So let's just let the cats starve & freeze to death - that's a more humane option
:eyes:

There was a cat that use to 'stalk' my house ( i called him stalker kitty). He would show up on the porch roof right by my bed room and send my 2 totally indoor cats into a tizzy.

I guess he didn't survive all those blizzards in Delaware - I haven't seen him since before winter.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 06:59 AM
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47. My finace had a Tom who lived a primitive life in a trailer, hunting and living off the land...
...but he loved it. He died two years ago of a heart condition. Tom was her brother, btw. He loved Old German beer and cigarettes, too.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 01:42 PM
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 01:44 PM
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16. TEH KITTEHS IZ TERRA-ISTS!!11!
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 01:50 PM
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21. more likely teh kitties is ill eaglez!!!!!!
Check theyz papurz......
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 01:49 PM
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20. By that logic, letting people exist is also terrorism.
Humans -- talk about a murdering species!
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 02:19 PM
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24. I assume you don't include the 6, count them 6 speices
of wild cats native to North America, who of course seem to belong outdoors. I think you should go take your bs and tell it to the pumas in the cervices.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 02:35 PM
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 02:23 PM
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25. I suppose you live in a grass hut and never leave it, correct?
Otherwise, so are you.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 02:36 PM
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29. Wow, do you ever poop?
Because it is environmentally damaging to the environment, you know.
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proudohioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 01:29 PM
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13. Wow! And just think of all the great things.....
....the human race is doing for birds and native wildlife, not to mention the whole eco-system!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 01:48 PM
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 01:49 PM
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19. what an asinine thing to say
Arizona, huh? nevermind.....
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 02:42 PM
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30. Actually, the number is not in the billions, it's in the millions
In fact it is less than the number of birds that humans and human activity kills every year, but wait, why aren't you crying for the death of humans? Oh, yeah:eyes:

I live out in the country, I have several cats that I keep indoors, mainly because I don't want them killed by coyotes and other animals. However I also have four or five feral cats that make my acreage home. I don't feed them, but I don't bother them either. They may kill a few birds, though I've never seen that. What I have seen them do is kill field mice, which is fine with me, otherwise I would be overrun with mice during the winter months.

The cats and I have a wonderful relationship, they don't stalk the birds at my feeders and they keep the mice population down, and I don't bother them. It works well.

You apparently dislike cats for whatever reason, but the real problem out here in the rural parts are feral dogs. They run down deer, other pets, and most importantly livestock, costing farmers millions every year. Yet we don't hear the kind of vociferous attitude that you and others display when it comes to dogs. Why is that?

Somehow this reminds me of the Dark Ages, when cats were considered evil, and were killed off. Well, you know what that led to, an explosion in the mice and rat population, which led to an explosion in the flea population, which led to the Black Death.

If you don't learn from history, you're doomed to repeat it. Thanks, but I'll keep on letting my small herd of feral cats run on my property, and if you don't like it, tough shit. Like I said earlier, I don't see you promoting the most serious killer of birds, man.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 02:44 PM
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31. No cat has ever shit on my windshield
unlike your precious birds
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proudohioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 03:03 PM
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33. OMG.........
:spray: LITERALLY!!:rofl:

God I needed that laugh!

Thank you!

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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 10:18 PM
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43. You son of a bitch!!!!
Good thing I wasn't consuming any drinks when reading this. :spray:
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 01:45 PM
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17. .
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 03:08 PM
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34. Save the Flower Beds!
Years ago I had a boss who didn't like cats using "his sand" for their shitter. He would capture them and take them away by car. One day he brought this cat in that was in a cage in his car trunk. He set the trap with Tuna and caught her. He says "Look out, he's wild". Well he was a she, and I ended up taking her home to a place where I wasn't suppose to have cats. Anyway I called her Bloomers because the white hair on the back of her legs looked like old lady's bloomers. She was fixed, so probably a pet. I went to my bosses neighborhood and tried to find her owners. I would have loved to see the look on his face when he saw that cat taking a dump in "his sand" again. LOL! But I never found them, so I kept her. I had her for about 8 years. I didn't know how old she was when I got her. Yes so save your precious flowers from cats. May her house be over run with mice. LOL!
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 05:32 PM
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38. Laconkillsanimals.com
:hide:
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 05:39 PM
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40. Ill town indeed n/t
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 05:48 PM
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41. Another town ignorant of how nature works.
Edited on Wed May-12-10 06:25 PM by Jakes Progress
Besides the sheer stupid cruelty and pure nastiness, no kill-the-cats program ever worked. All you get are dead cats and a soulless citizenry. One year later - Cats everywhere.

This approach to a genuine problem is akin to shooting all the fourth graders who don't pass the test and thinking that now you have solved the education problem. It is short-sighted, simplistic, and ignorant.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 10:15 PM
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42. Unless they are going to break into homes & cat-nap kitties
the solution is easy..keep your cats inside..

neighbors will thank you, birdies & lizards will thank you and of course your kittie will live a longer & healthier life too
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 10:48 PM
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44. Dear Folks of Lacon, expect to see a rapid rise in the rodent population
there's a reason for letting cats roam outside. :think:

dg
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 06:56 AM
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46. And rodents carry the lethal hanta-virus
It is a real problem in the desert southwest.
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 11:34 AM
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48. spay and neuter your pets, if you love them,
Do not add to the problem
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