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davidswanson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:33 PM Original message |
Obama Scraps Iraq Withdrawal |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
1. Naw ....really??? Who da thunk it? DUH! |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Do yourself a favor and look into it yourself. Dont just believe everything an OP tells you. |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Do yourself a favor and quit trusting the government to tell you the truth about anything. |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:44 AM Response to Reply #6 |
78. So we should, what, believe you unquestioningly instead? |
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krawhitham (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 01:04 AM Response to Reply #78 |
82. +99999999999 |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:53 AM Response to Reply #78 |
89. Amen! |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:21 PM Response to Reply #89 |
199. "I have this amazing urge to make your post my sigline." I was thinking the EXACT same thing |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 09:43 AM Response to Reply #78 |
112. LOL |
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icee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:07 PM Response to Reply #78 |
136. Yep. Foot shooters. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:11 PM Response to Reply #78 |
138. The poster didn't ask you to believe anything. |
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Just-plain-Kathy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 01:33 PM Response to Reply #78 |
149. "...clutch their "liberal" cards"?? |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 03:13 PM Response to Reply #149 |
176. Thank you. |
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pundaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 03:55 PM Response to Reply #78 |
182. Democrats or Republicans, if they are not Progressive Liberals, they do not get my vote. I vote |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 04:53 PM Response to Reply #78 |
186. WTF ...get off the meds. Who asked you to believe me unquestioningly? |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:12 AM Response to Reply #186 |
224. THE GUBMINT BE EBBIL DONT TRUST DA GUBMINT! |
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quickesst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 06:52 PM Response to Reply #78 |
197. Goddamn did you ever nail it....... |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:20 PM Response to Reply #78 |
198. I love you. I mean it. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:27 PM Response to Reply #78 |
200. What a perfect summary |
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liquid diamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:14 PM Response to Reply #78 |
222. +1 |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:27 PM Response to Reply #78 |
234. + 1234123412 3231234wdfasf`314!!!! |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:55 AM Response to Reply #6 |
129. AND you post a link to a story using government sources to back up your claim... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:07 PM Response to Reply #129 |
137. Demonstrating that the government's message is mixed is not hypocrisy. |
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The Damned (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 03:13 AM Response to Reply #3 |
225. Funny: I thought it was the end of August! |
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HowHasItComeToThis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
20. f |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
2. What dishonest Bullshit. The article offers no sources. Pentagon says everything is on schedule |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:37 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Oh, OK, as long as the Pentagon says so. |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. There is no reason NOT to believe them. Its not like they can hide the truth on this |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. As long as anonymous posters on the internet say so. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:46 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. David Swanson is not anonymous. Check out his user name. |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. lol, that suddenly just added SO much more credibility, lol lol lol |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:51 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Do you not have The Google? |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. lol no omgz, whats the google, lol lol, is that where David Swanson LIVES? |
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davidswanson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:11 PM Response to Reply #22 |
37. yes i live on google |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:14 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. LOL. |
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mindwalker_i (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:41 PM Response to Reply #37 |
56. That's funny, cuz I actually live close to google... |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 01:49 PM Response to Reply #37 |
153. my sides are splittin. may I suggest you move to a warmer worldwideweb address? |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 01:47 AM Response to Reply #22 |
87. David Swanson is not anonymous. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 01:06 PM Response to Reply #87 |
143. Fools and enablers. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:34 AM Response to Reply #8 |
94. David Swanson is probably the least anonymous poster here |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:07 PM Response to Reply #94 |
156. said perfectly... I admire his candor and honesty. |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. dupe |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:52 AM Response to Reply #4 |
98. The God Almighty Pentagon! ?! |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:57 PM Response to Reply #98 |
175. The most gullible people on DU |
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Blue Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 04:08 PM Response to Reply #98 |
184. what a great cartoon! |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. * |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Your own link says they are still doing it within the confines of the Aug. 31 dead. |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 04:56 PM Response to Reply #11 |
187. Obama took office on Jan 22 + the 18 months he said we would be out of Iraq = ??? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:45 PM Original message |
Have you been following the rising violence in Iraq? |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
13. The Pentagon has said they are sticking to the timeline. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:50 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. 'The OP is incredibly dishonest' - Mr. Swanson is not a liar. |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:50 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I don't care if he is Mother frigging Theresa. The pentagon said they were sticking to the timeline. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:53 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Okie dokie |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. and Agent Orange was harmless... |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:02 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Pentagon wants to stay in Iraq forever...right? |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:03 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. I have no idea nt |
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Andronex (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:43 PM Response to Reply #28 |
58. Right ! |
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geardaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:37 AM Response to Reply #58 |
122. I think you need to update that list |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Yea because the timeline on a war is something they can actually lie about and cover up! |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:12 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. Bookmark this, and we will talk again on Spetember 1st. |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:14 PM Response to Reply #30 |
42. go ahead, take the Pentagon as a reliable source of information |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:54 AM Response to Reply #42 |
128. The OP in this thread posted links to stories coming from Pentagon sources to back up their claims. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:18 PM Response to Reply #30 |
47. LOL! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:19 PM Response to Reply #25 |
48. We are not in Cambodia! |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:28 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. LOL |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:32 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Not only the Pentagram. Also their co-conspirators in congress. |
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unhappycamper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:39 AM Response to Reply #48 |
95. I was at a base 100 meters inside the Cambodian border when Tricky Dick |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:50 AM Response to Reply #95 |
97. Come on. Who am I supposed to trust, you or the Pentagon? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 08:11 AM Response to Reply #97 |
104. Given a choice between ENTRUSTING an individual or a bureaucratic organization, |
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Dystopian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. You actually believe the Pentagon? |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:49 AM Response to Reply #27 |
124. I bet if the Pentagon said we're staying in Iraq for 5 more yrs, you'd believe it without question. |
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Dystopian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #124 |
190. I don't believe anything stated by the Pentagon. n/t |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:19 AM Response to Reply #17 |
68. That's your reliable source? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 08:09 AM Response to Reply #17 |
103. Americans trust in the Pentagon's proclamations as that of *The Word of God.* |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 04:13 PM Response to Reply #17 |
185. And Pentagon Generals don't lie. So there! |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:29 PM Response to Reply #17 |
202. So whom should I believe? The Pentagon or David Swanson? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:42 AM Response to Reply #15 |
75. Deleted message |
Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 01:38 AM Response to Reply #75 |
86. Your posts haven't always thrilled me either, but that's life :) |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 01:24 PM Response to Reply #15 |
146. True - the proper term would be disingenuous. |
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eecumings (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 09:25 PM Response to Reply #146 |
215. Sorry |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:56 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. I have never trusted the Pentagon.. period |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. The Pentagon said there was WMD in Iraq and that torture wasn't policy, too. |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:08 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. Worthless argument lacking any meaningful context. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:09 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. I've seen rude posters before but you take the ca-fucking-ke. /ignore. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:13 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. Right. Because the American attention span is 90 days. Next. n/t |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 01:27 AM Response to Reply #33 |
84. Do you realize how stupid it sounds to say 'I trust the Pentagon'? |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:07 AM Response to Reply #84 |
117. Not even close to as stupid as someone that yells conspiracy everytime the government speaks a word. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:06 PM Response to Reply #117 |
135. For your 'accusation' to be believable |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 01:33 AM Response to Reply #33 |
85. Don't be so hard on yourself. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 08:16 AM Response to Reply #33 |
105. It's called "disinformation" and organizations such as the Pentagon are masters at it. |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:25 PM Response to Reply #33 |
141. Your bloviation, condescension and rudeness |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 05:56 PM Response to Reply #141 |
192. Thank you. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:54 AM Response to Reply #13 |
99. The Pentagon says ...? |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:52 AM Response to Reply #99 |
127. This entire thread is based on the OP using a Pentagon/military source as their information. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:18 PM Response to Reply #127 |
140. This was wrong the first time you posted it, let alone the third time. |
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billh58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 01:34 PM Response to Reply #127 |
150. The OP is not |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 01:38 PM Response to Reply #150 |
152. LOL -- that Big Bad hold your rep accountable agenda? |
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billh58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 01:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
148. Facts mean |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
10. Change you have to believe in to see! |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 03:21 AM Response to Reply #10 |
90. DUzy! nt |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
14. No! That must be a typo. |
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skeptical cynic (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
19. Peace movement? |
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Bigmack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:07 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. Don't look at me.... |
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skeptical cynic (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:21 AM Response to Reply #32 |
69. I know there is a small peace movement |
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Bigmack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 09:20 AM Response to Reply #69 |
110. Read it... agree totally. nt |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
26. Link please |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:13 PM Response to Reply #26 |
40. Here's a link to the same story at David's blog. |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:41 AM Response to Reply #40 |
88. That is more opinion than story |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
31. I'm calling you out, David. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:11 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. What do you make of this? And that's a real question, not a fake one |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:14 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. It looks like there are mixed messages being sent out...but the OP is definitely wrong in my eyes. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:17 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Well, there's always the math -- which by the way |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:45 PM Response to Reply #36 |
59. I agree with what you have shared. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:48 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Check out #44 where David supplies two links |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:01 AM Response to Reply #60 |
63. I saw that initially. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
35. Don't blame me. I voted for Kucinich. |
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davidswanson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:15 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. yeah but you know he was too short |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:24 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Which is funny, considering McCain is the same height. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:25 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. We're not stupid. We just don't own our elections. n/t |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
46. Obama never claimed to be for drawing down in Iraq. |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:50 PM Response to Reply #46 |
61. Ooooo, I was gonna smack you! |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
53. Bush was such a dick for agreeing to that (SOFA) |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
54. Perhaps someone could tell me what this means? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:40 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Should this be the part we attend to? |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:57 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. I read it. David's second hyperlink leads to an article that links to it. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:33 AM Response to Reply #62 |
72. I'm ready for Friday. |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:43 AM Response to Reply #72 |
77. Read ProSense's contribution below. |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:43 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. It's pretty clear. nt |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:14 AM Response to Reply #54 |
67. It's is issued every year. |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:29 AM Response to Reply #67 |
71. Hmmm. |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 08:40 PM Response to Reply #67 |
212. OK, thanks |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
64. as long as there is a barrel of oil and a cubic meter of natural gas |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:04 AM Response to Original message |
65. K&R |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:04 AM Response to Original message |
66. I believe the Status of Forces Agreement between the U.S. and Iraq is considered a... |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
70. Looking for my shocked face. nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
73. Deleted message |
impik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
74. Classic FDL bullshit. |
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tabatha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:42 AM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Agreed. |
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PhoenixDaddy (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
79. Seems to me that campaigns are campaigns and reality is reality |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:56 AM Response to Reply #79 |
81. You remember how they got Saddam, right? |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 08:35 AM Response to Reply #79 |
109. Hooray for Iraq war supporters in the big tent! |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 09:43 PM Response to Reply #79 |
219. Well, it is what it is because otherwise it wouldn't be, and that's that. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:49 AM Response to Original message |
80. Putting aside the moral arguments, we simply cannot afford to keep troops |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 08:30 AM Response to Reply #80 |
107. It's only our tax dollars being SPENT, the MIC corporations are making money hand over fist. |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 01:07 AM Response to Original message |
83. The members of the House, and the Senate as well, know that |
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gleaner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 06:26 AM Response to Original message |
91. I'm not at all surprised .... |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 06:36 AM Response to Original message |
92. When Obama speaks with Karzai |
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TransitJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:27 AM Response to Original message |
93. Chess Move® n/t |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:43 AM Response to Original message |
96. Gee, right on time. I told you so but many wouldn't listen - we're there until the corporations |
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SaveAmerica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
100. Being anti-Iraq Occupation and with a husband in Iraq now, very interested in this |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
101. Not another nice move Mr. President. |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:56 AM Response to Original message |
102. No One Could Have Predicted that Sectarian Violence Would Continue |
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icee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
106. Yes, it is simply another disaster. They are stacking up now. Soon |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
108. All I can say is Colin Powell was right |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
111. We really, really need the oil. |
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Soylent Brice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 01:25 PM Response to Reply #111 |
147. lol |
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snort (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
113. Bullshit post. |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 09:56 AM Response to Reply #113 |
115. Another Trusting Believer of Pentagon Information |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 09:59 AM Response to Reply #115 |
116. Kucinich's former press secretary |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:00 PM Response to Reply #116 |
132. Than the Pentagon? Please. |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:13 AM Response to Reply #115 |
118. sad, isnt it. |
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snort (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 11:14 AM Response to Reply #115 |
131. Oh sure. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:04 PM Response to Reply #115 |
155. Trusting the Pentagon as opposed to who? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:12 PM Response to Reply #155 |
159. You could read the thread? |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:17 PM Response to Reply #159 |
162. Not seeing anything other than |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:19 PM Response to Reply #162 |
164. Then you have a reading problem. Good luck with that. n/t |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:24 PM Response to Reply #164 |
166. Can't link to anything again? |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:29 PM Response to Reply #164 |
201. You should APOLOGIZE!!one! I can't believe how RUDE you're being!!11 |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
114. We spent $5.5 billion for the war in Iraq in February. |
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lame54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
119. At least he kept his promise on Afghanistan |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:29 AM Response to Reply #119 |
120. +1 |
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davidswanson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
121. Encouraging |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:40 AM Response to Reply #121 |
123. "The anger...at me for suggesting that it isn't all on track" |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:51 AM Response to Reply #121 |
125. Nice backtrack. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:52 AM Response to Reply #125 |
126. Nail, meet hammer. (nt) |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:56 AM Response to Reply #126 |
130. Are you calling Robb a Hammer? |
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icee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:06 PM Response to Reply #121 |
134. I have no anger against you for suggesting what you did. I am |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:10 PM Response to Reply #121 |
158. So you're agenda is to stir up anger about the policy to pressure Obama |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:13 PM Response to Reply #158 |
160. Before you attack David Swanson, shouldn't you read this thread? |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:40 PM Response to Reply #160 |
170. Any time you'd like to make a point |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 03:16 PM Response to Reply #160 |
177. Stop! He's radical! And an ACTIVIST! |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 04:02 PM Response to Reply #177 |
183. Who believes in accuracy! |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 08:05 PM Response to Reply #177 |
208. ...and speaking up for the truth |
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greencharlie (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
133. I KNEW I shoulda' got into the bullet-making industry... nt |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
139. Incredible... |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
142. Oh. What a surprise. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
144. Endless wars-many of us knew this was Obama's plan during the primaries but few would listen. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
145. Don't Like Obama's Policies? I get it. |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 01:58 PM Response to Reply #145 |
154. you're one to talk about hyperbolic writing |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:07 PM Response to Reply #154 |
157. Did the adminstration scrap the withdrawal? |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
151. Yay! |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
161. "U.S. Says Iraq Troop Withdrawal Remains On Schedule" |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:20 PM Response to Reply #161 |
165. The third time might be the charm but I doubt it. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:38 PM Response to Reply #165 |
168. After three times the Gaurdian article still doesn't have a named source. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:50 PM Response to Reply #165 |
205. You do realize that even David has stepped away from this? |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
163. Your article makes sense. Your title does not. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:42 PM Response to Reply #163 |
171. Exactly. |
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davidswanson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
167. complete withdrawal or not |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #167 |
173. You can't mobilize people |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 03:20 PM Response to Reply #173 |
178. You can, however, build your pundit credentials. |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 08:15 AM Response to Reply #167 |
226. No, it's not just gone from 16 months to a partial withdrawal by August. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 10:48 AM Response to Reply #226 |
228. Wow. Factual information. |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:09 AM Response to Reply #228 |
230. He had his chance to man up. |
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Blue Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
169. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:56 PM Response to Reply #169 |
174. +1000 |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #174 |
189. Who's saying it's okay under Obama? |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
172. This post is dishonest. |
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paulkienitz (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
179. even if it's postponed, the promise to withdraw did a lot of good... |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 03:42 PM Response to Reply #179 |
181. The end justifies the means. Except it's not the end. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:41 PM Response to Reply #181 |
204. Show a single fact to support what you just said |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
180. K & R. Damn the pro-war apologists, full speed ahead. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 05:49 PM Response to Reply #180 |
191. Pro-war apologists? Care to show one example of someone that is pro-war. |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 11:35 PM Response to Reply #191 |
223. "a lot of people that don't like being lied to;" |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
188. K&+R |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
193. Recommend for a well thought out piece... |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:32 PM Response to Reply #193 |
203. But it isn't |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 08:00 PM Response to Reply #203 |
206. I didn't say I agree and I didn't click the link... |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 08:02 PM Response to Reply #206 |
207. I assumed you were supportive of the conclusion in the subject |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 09:32 PM Response to Reply #207 |
216. And the way to do that is by organizing at the Congressional District Level |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
194. I never know what to believe in the world of politics. |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
195. K |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
196. K&R ... |
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Crowman1979 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
209. I'm gonna act like the soup-nazi when I go to the voting booth. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 08:43 PM Response to Reply #209 |
213. Fictional post supports why you won't vote for Obama |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
210. "Scrapped" |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 08:44 PM Response to Reply #210 |
214. It doesnt even go that far. It says they may change the rate of withdrawal. |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
211. This thread makes Seabiscuit smile. |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
217. Ha Ha Ha HAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAH |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 09:41 PM Response to Original message |
218. Sad - - but be back tomorrow to actually read it all -- |
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Robeson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
220. Did you ever think we were going to fully withdraw? Seriously?... |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
221. Oh no he DIDN'T... |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
227. This was pretty obvious from the gitgo. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 10:53 AM Response to Reply #227 |
229. Jesus, soo transparent. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:57 AM Response to Reply #229 |
231. Facts, Moran? |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:59 AM Response to Reply #231 |
232. Can't post on topic and taking a cheap shot eh? |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:19 PM Response to Reply #232 |
233. Touchy, are we? |
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