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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 05:29 PM Original message |
If the President and the Party pledged to end NAFTA would we win in the fall going away? |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
1. they'd have to end it BEFORE the election to really get the votes |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 05:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Well okay, if they ended it and ran on that, same question. |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 05:35 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. if they truly ended Nafta, they'd get my vote |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 05:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. I'm sure they'd get a lot of our votes |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
2. Obama already promised to renegotiate it with the threat of leaving it as leverage |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
5. Democrats are not even interested in repealing Taft-Hartley |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
6. Just a pledge? Not a chance at being credible. |
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Motown_Johnny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
8. the amount of corporate money spent to beat them would go through the roof |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
9. They never will because that's too much $$$ for the ruling class. |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:51 AM Response to Reply #9 |
30. So dropping an atomic bomb on the Mexican economy with REDUCE illegal immigration? |
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southerncrone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
10. It would garner lots of votes...but a strong to-the-point ad campaign must accompany it. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
11. Wouldn't that send the economy into a downward spiral and cause massive unemployment? |
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Elwood P Dowd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 11:23 PM Response to Reply #11 |
24. You have no freaking clue what you're talking about. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 02:01 AM Response to Reply #24 |
31. And you think ending NAFTA would bring them back? |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 08:52 AM Response to Reply #31 |
43. Trade War? |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 08:40 AM Response to Reply #24 |
42. There are real questions as to what the job losses would have been without it |
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tbyg52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
12. No, because we know how much a "pledge" from our "fierce advocate" means. nt |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
13. Even if you were a pollster and you could show them they'd win with 90% of the vote |
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Imajika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
14. You'd have to explain to most Americans what NAFTA is... |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 09:39 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Where the heck do you live? |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
15. Pledged? No way. They'll make some weasel worded statement |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 09:35 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. People are getting hung up on the word pledge |
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William Z. Foster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
18. yes |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
19. The country isn't as isolationist as you think. |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 09:59 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Thanks, I sometimes forget how anti-labor some of my fellow "Democrats" are |
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Elwood P Dowd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 11:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. NAFTA is a scam masquerading as free trade. |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 02:26 AM Response to Reply #21 |
34. Sad, isn't it? |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
20. He already "pledged" against it while attacking Clinton's pro-NAFTA stance. Day after the primaries |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
22. I don't think enough people know what NAFTA is for it to matter very much |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:12 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. You must not spend much time among working people. |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
26. I think the president should work on what he campaigned on |
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JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
27. I think it would be the most amusing election ever. |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:47 AM Response to Original message |
28. That will sure teach them for sending jobs to India and China! |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 07:02 AM Response to Reply #28 |
37. +1...nt |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 07:24 AM Response to Reply #28 |
38. And the EU has an FTA with Mexico and is negotiating one with Canada. They'll be happy to sell oil |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
29. too little this late |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 02:12 AM Response to Original message |
32. "New leadership will end the war" |
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PufPuf23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 02:21 AM Response to Original message |
33. If they pledged to end NAFTA it would be replaced with something worse. |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 04:47 AM Response to Original message |
35. Damn right they would win! It's a fucking republican bill that needs to go! |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 05:13 AM Response to Original message |
36. Maybe. Americans love scapegoats-particularly foreign ones. While Canada and the EU are negotiating |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 07:42 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Crazy corporate spin |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 08:29 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. The point is that "free trade" (and open borders) not only works in Europe, progressives there |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 09:22 AM Response to Reply #41 |
48. People who oppose NAFTA = BNP. It's as simple as that. nt |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 02:31 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. You do understand what the term "multinational" means, right? |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 08:01 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. the answer isn't pretty or politically correct |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 09:03 AM Response to Reply #40 |
44. A Corporate Capitalist speaks. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 09:18 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Thank you for this comment! nt |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 04:11 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. And there is more money to be made building other things |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 10:00 PM Response to Reply #40 |
50. You never fail to disappoint. |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 10:53 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. so which statements specifically do you disagree with? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 09:20 AM Response to Reply #36 |
47. Your spiel becomes increasingly shrill. Why so mum on Greece, and BRITISH Petroleum's problems, |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
45. Did you miss Obama's earlier broken pledge regarding NAFTA? "Fool me...we can't get fooled again." |
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