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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 10:47 AM Original message |
Corporations and capitalism will be responsible for the end of life as we know it. |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
1. I have this image of those guys in suits from American Psycho running the country |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 10:51 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Recall the notorious Enron phone calls of yuppie fascists joking about taking granny's $ |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:12 AM Response to Reply #4 |
17. nope, brain cells dying....but am interested. Could you please refresh my memory? |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 02:54 PM Response to Reply #17 |
73. here you go |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Thank you *very* much. Those quotes about stealing from "granny" will be |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 04:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
89. I remember that. |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 10:52 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Alas, it's not just an "image!" |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:00 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. someone on DU who worked on WallStreet said it's true |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
2. Well, humans had a good run |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 10:52 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. More animals will go into extinction in the next 20 years. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 10:29 AM Response to Reply #2 |
93. Love the sig line! |
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geardaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
3. I think you can cast your net wider than that. |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 10:55 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Actually I did with overpopulating, but I could said littering, like throwing garbage in the ocean. |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
8. Monsanto trying to privatize the world's food supply won't help either. |
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geardaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:04 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. +1000 |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:04 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. I agree, but greed rains supreme globally. |
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chillspike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
12. Capitalism must be phased out |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:14 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Sadly, we don't have the time for a "phase". |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
36. Imagine a vampire movie where the good guys decide to phase out the bloodsuckers |
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randr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
13. Life as we once knew it is already history |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 01:02 PM Response to Reply #13 |
61. Frog. Lobsters know to scream and try to escape. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
14. human extinction is, of course, pretty much a sure thing. |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:12 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. I did mention overpopulation destroying natural habitat; which destroys necessary food chains. The |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:15 PM Response to Reply #18 |
43. Yes, but what is the connection between overpopulation and corporations or capitalism? |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:21 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. I should worded the headline better, because I didn't mean to confuse you. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:23 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. I Agree - People Are Indeed The Likely Culprits Behind Overpopulation |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:30 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. We need a moratorium on births globally, but it won't happen, |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:32 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. I could not stomach so many deaths. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:40 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Well, That's Quite A Bind |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 03:00 PM Response to Reply #57 |
74. So who should we condemn to death? |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 03:24 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. That's the list: "The non-productive poor, the elderly, the disabled? " |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 03:47 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Free Suicide Pills? |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 03:51 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. "What kind of commie are you?" |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 03:54 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. I have no idea what you are on about, actually |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 03:58 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. sorry... the "you" is the collective "You".... to be more precise, the government. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 04:04 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. I am not a "collective you" |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 04:09 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Sorry, then. I will keep it to myself. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 11:29 AM Response to Reply #51 |
96. Capitalism begets poverty. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
15. "Crony Capitalism Is NOT Capitalism", see DU post below. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:18 AM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Capitalism is a wealth distribution mechanism that works efficiently... |
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daggahead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:23 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Don't forget the most important element of capitalism ... |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:29 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Capitalism started with slavery. Every global super power had it at some point. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:36 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. It is the notion that one man can purchase the right to profit from another man's labor |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:43 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Low wage workers are slaves. Capitalism has put borders around the working class. The middle class |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:26 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Thanks for sharing your opinion with me. I don't know of any economic system that operates |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:32 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. And never did I suggest that such a system is needed |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:37 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Basically you are saying a democratic-socialist government would suffice. I agree. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Do you expect that a "democratic-socialist government" would protect individual rights? n/t |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:59 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. The right to make laborers so poor they die from lack of access to medical treatment? |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:04 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Democratic-Socialism would provide medicine and affordable college. The U.S. has privatized public |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:12 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. In #32 I meant "individual rights" enumerated and unenumerated protected by our Constitution. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:13 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Most true. Socialism isn't concerned about the individual and individual rights |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:49 AM Response to Reply #26 |
31. You said "Corporations and capitalism" and "All the polluting" etc. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:57 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. No I didn't |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. mea culpa, I confused your post with ej510 posts. n/t |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 02:36 PM Response to Reply #15 |
70. Stop being an apologists |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 04:08 PM Response to Reply #70 |
84. The issue is whether one wants a central government that controls production & decides which rights |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 04:30 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. That makes no sense. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 04:42 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. Government controlled by corporatist ostensibly favors capitalism but that's really crony-capitalism |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 04:59 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. No, that's capitalism.. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 05:31 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. OK, we've exchanged opinions. Have a nice day and goodbye n/t |
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LeftinOH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
16. Movie triple-bill which describes it best: Idiocracy + Soylent Green + Brazil ..n/t |
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daggahead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
20. The Boiler Room ... |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:19 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Boiler Room damn near described what Goldman Sachs was doing, |
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kctim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
27. LOL |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. flawed logic. simply because we've adapted in the past |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:09 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. I don't think we have enough time to adapt or the intellectual heft to. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:17 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. You forgot to add "Non corporate contraception" |
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kctim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 01:46 PM Response to Reply #39 |
66. Such dire things are always spoken of |
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kctim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 01:33 PM Response to Reply #35 |
64. Of course there is no guarantee |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
42. Corporations are "overpopulating"? |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:15 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Much, much more likely since the mid-20th century |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:17 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Yes, all certainties become more likely to occur as time proceeds /nt |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:22 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Especially with the advent of tens of thousands of extinction-ensuring weapons... |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:24 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Yes, well our original poster seems concerned with overpopulation |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:27 PM Original message |
Those who trivialize the actuality of the situation almost always overlook the most obvious factors |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
58. The most obvious starting point for approaching any situation |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:56 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. The multi-faceted problem of attempting to hold Power accountable |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:18 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. You misunderstood me. I was talking about human population. I blame part of it on religion. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:22 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Okay, so we need a list of culprits |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
53. If this was capitalism you'd have a point |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:37 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Capitalism has no constraints. They buy government officials then wreak havoc on the planet without |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:59 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Alas what you are describing is FASCISM |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 01:04 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Mousalini's choice government. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 01:23 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Regardless, language matters |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 02:21 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. Lets just call a shovel a fork |
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blueworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
65. I emailed a similar point to MSNBC years ago & was shocked to get an interested response |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 01:49 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. We are all slaves to the current system. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 02:25 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Less so than you think |
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blueworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 02:41 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. True, but even in very small small ways, like product selection |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 02:51 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. No, you just lack the courage and conviction to stop participating |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
77. No doubt.....And if people don't wrap their brains around that quickly......Oh well. |
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Umbral (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
80. Not life, just humanity and civilization as we know it. Life is remarkably resilient. nt |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
87. Corporations gave Sociopaths a Purpose |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 08:33 PM Response to Reply #87 |
92. Complete destruction of the world. |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
94. I heard a streetcorner preacher screaming about armageddon the other day |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
95. I think so, too. |
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