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pgarrison Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 01:17 PM
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Lawrence O'donnell on why Kagan is a good pick: Obama chose her and he is wise
Edited on Fri May-14-10 01:21 PM by pgarrison
During the Ed Showe yesterday:

I have a suggestion for liberals concerned about Elena Kagan. Trust President Obama‘s judgment on this one...
...Elena Kagan is no Thurgood Marshall. No one on the Supreme Court is. The weight of the court now is to avoid controversy. So we don‘t know a lot about Kagan, but we do know a lot about the man who appointed her. Barack Obama is the wisest and most learned legal scholar ever to occupy the White House. That‘s who Kagan would have had to fool if she really were some sort of stealth conservative.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/37149220/ns/msnbc_tv-the_ed_show/

Progressive media critic Bob Somerby comments:

"Elena Kagan is no Thurgood Marshall?” The real complaint has been somewhat different. According to the real complaint, Elena Kagan is no Diane Wood—no Harold Koh, no Pam Karlan. But it’s just like members of the clan to treat us rubes like low-IQ proles, to offer us such perfect pabulum in the place of an actual argument.

Kagan could never fool Wise Leader, this primal clan member told us last night. Does O’Donnell know that some people are troubled by the idea that Kagan may have been chosen because she’s inclined to defer to Wise Leader? Singing the praise of Obama, the gent doesn’t seem to have heard.

Dionne and O’Donnell offer “arguments” which amount to two words: Trust us. Unfortunately, there is a very grim back-story here."


http://dailyhowler.com/dh051410.shtml
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 01:22 PM
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1. Do your own research and then trust yourself n/t
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 01:23 PM
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2. The problem with O'Donnell's view is that he assumes Obama wants a liberal. nt
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 01:26 PM
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3. How can you trust someone not to appoint a stealth republican when
the one doing the appointing could be considered a stealth republican themselves.

Look at Summers, Geithner, Salazar. It doesn't take much to make one wonder.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 01:30 PM
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4. You're absolutely right - Obama scolds the bankers and then...
...stands in the way of breaking up the banks. Today he's scolding oil execs but leaves Salazar in charge.

Amazing how people keep falling for his empty words.

God only knows what his intention is with Kagan - we shouldn't have to guess at the positions of a Dem nominated for SCOTUS.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 01:32 PM
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5. I don't trust any politician that much. Sorry. I would have opposed some of FDR's appointments. nt
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 01:38 PM
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6. And who is Diane Wood, Harold Koh, or Pam Karlan?
Edited on Fri May-14-10 01:38 PM by Renew Deal
We don't know what any of these people are really going to be like. We can't fairly compare Kagan to them. I think O'Donnell makes a fair point.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 02:34 AM
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11. All three have an extensive public record on which we can; for good, bad or eh,
form an opinion. Not so with Kagan.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 01:44 PM
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7. seems to be some Führerprinzip in action here:
Edited on Fri May-14-10 02:25 PM by MisterP
unitary and executive Presidencies (which Kagan often favors) have as their principle the legality and rightness of any and everything the Leader does, since he is the receptacle, source, and criterion of all goodness. if he speaks, we must all obey.

centrist and moderate Dems (recall the "you stay in your PLACE!" Dixiecrats or "ZOMG he's such a fighter" Rahm's purges of antiwar and pro-choice Dems) have had a strong authoritarian streak, paralleling their constant warmongering (Scoop Jackson, JFK's "Losing China," the Best and the Brightest in Vietnam, Congress lambasting Nicaragua as much as Reagan did, the IWR) and the quasi-Nazism of the National Security State

tl,dr: loyalists are less levelheaded than Synanon members

ooh, I found a quote: "in comparison to (President's name) we are all pip-squeaks. Anyone who believes he can do better than the leader is stupid." --Adm. Dönitz
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 01:55 PM
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8. Trust a man who thinks I should not have equal rights
because of his religious delusions? Why would I? When he says my family is not 'sanctified by God' should I trust that too, Larry?
Trusting a politician is a dereliction of one's duty as a citizen.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 03:26 PM
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9. I agree w/ Lawrence
Mr Obama has proven over and over that he will do what's best and prudent. I thank God every day that McCain/Palin were rejected. And a lot of people around here should as well.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 02:27 AM
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10. K & R
:thumbsup:
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