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apples and oranges Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 02:22 PM
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Your thoughts on the student who scammed Harvard?
This is all over the news:



http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/05/alleged_harvard.html

The Globe reports today that Wheeler allegedly forged his way into Harvard University by submitting false transcripts saying he had attended the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and the elite Phillips Academy in Andover. He also said he scored a perfect score of 1600 on his SAT. After transferring to Harvard, he earned some $45,000 in scholarship, grants, and financial aid.

In reality, according to Assistant Middlesex District Attorney John Verner, he scored about 1100 on his SAT, and attended high school in Delaware. He also attended Bowdoin College but was suspended for plagiarizing an essay. It was during his suspension, after the spring 2007 semester, that he applied to transfer to Harvard.

His “web of lies,” according to Verner, unraveled when he applied for prestigious Rhodes and Fulbright scholarships last fall using falsified credentials, including a fake transcript and work he plagiarized from a Harvard professor.

A Harvard professor reviewing the application for the scholarships grew suspicious of essays that Wheeler apparently plagiarized. Wheeler also allegedly forged the names of professors on letters of recommendations.

When confronted with the plagiarism allegation, Wheeler allegedly said, “Ah, I must have made a mistake. I didn’t really plagiarize it,” Verner said.



Half of me is disgusted and the other half of me is impressed by this young man's ingenuity. I wonder how many people get away with stuff like this?
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 02:23 PM
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1. Got to respect Madoff and Wall Street then
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 02:24 PM
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2. This kid sounds like a future leader of the young republicans
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 02:26 PM
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6. +100
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BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 02:53 PM
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21. Another Frank Luntz
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 02:25 PM
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3. Every few years somebody pulls this shit off
and then the schools have to make their application process even more onerous, which will further harass the honest students.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 04:22 PM
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31. yeah...this guy doesn't even seem as smooth as the last
ivy-league scammer in the news about 5-6 years ago...
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 02:25 PM
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4. A young man without a single ethical thought. Wants all the rewards without any of the work.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 02:27 PM
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7. I see political office in his future... he sounds like a perfect candidate. n/t
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 02:26 PM
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5. I would think the "perfect score of 1600 on the SAT" would have given him away...
But other than that, Banksters, here he comes!
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 06:43 PM
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36. Ha! Apparently you don't realize there's tons of 1600s out there.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 02:29 PM
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8. I say give him an honorary degree
But he should of went with almost perfect SAT.
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 02:29 PM
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9. Maybe he can get together with celebrated con artist Esther Reed,
who was even more adept than this guy.

Reed eventually got arrested.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 02:33 PM
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10. If he had tricked his way into Harvard and then buckled down and worked hard
I'd be mildly approving (although he still took a slot from a student who truly earned it). However, it sounds like he continued his dishonesty and general sleazitude once in Harvard, in which case I think he deserves to have the hammer brought down hard...
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 02:33 PM
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11. If he'd actually put that much work into doing it legally/morally, I'd respect him.
But really, I just kind of want to spit in his general direction.
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Lagomorph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 03:37 PM
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28. I tend to agree with you.
I know when I quit trying to "game" opportunities (as a 20 something) and just worked for them, they showed up more often.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 02:34 PM
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12. My first reaction is I'm glad harvard got conned...
...I suppose I should be appalled, but I can't find it in me.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 02:36 PM
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13. Hard to summon much outrage.
Edited on Tue May-18-10 02:37 PM by lumberjack_jeff
Colleges have been scamming parents "it's never too early to save for college", employers "But his resume said he has a college degree? Shouldn't he be able to add?", and students "don't worry about college debt. A gagillion dollars may seem like a lot today, but not when you're making a brazillion dollars from your highly valuable PhD in english literature!"

... for decades.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 02:38 PM
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14. Sociopath who puts effort into the scam instead of into the actual work.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 02:42 PM
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17. I knew someone who did that. They spent more teffort finding ways to avoid work and
and scamming for entitlements than they would have at an actual job that would have paid better.

I laughed hysterically when they got caught scamming their long-term disability insurer. Karma can be quite entertaining.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 02:41 PM
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15. Cheaters truly do prosper in college. He's from Exeter, he must be smart! Them's that has, gets. nt
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Tutankhamun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 02:42 PM
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16. If he was smart enough to con his way in, he should have been
smart enough to write his own essays. At least he could have plagiarized it from somewhere harder to trace than a professor at his own school!

He could have paid someone to write his essays. He could have even just obtained other essays and rewritten them. That would have been fairly easy if he had ANY writing ability at all.

There are myriad ways to fake an essay.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 02:47 PM
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18. He's a product of our society. Just doing what he sees being rewarded
Hard to be critical when the same and worse is all around us at the highest levels of business and government.

I doubt he was even being cynical, just doing what he saw as the way to get things done.

I'm the one that is cynical.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 02:51 PM
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19. My first thought? I bet Goldman Sachs or somebody is scouting him.
Edited on Tue May-18-10 02:52 PM by calimary
I suspect there are quite a few headhunters checking him out already and positioning themselves for whenever he becomes available.

I suspect there are more than a few CEOs and maybe even politicos (like kkkarl rove maybe, or the "college republi-CONS"?) who were watching reports about him on TV and saying to themselves "shit! I could use a man like that!"

I turned to my husband, completely knee-jerk, and said "I bet he's got a great future on Wall Street."
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 02:52 PM
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20. Ummm, he bilked the government and other organizations of thousands of dollars in scholarships
that should have gone to more deserving people.

That alone is a major federal crime right there. It's an amusing story and it's always very interesting to see how these people get caught in the end. Anyone ever read about the guy that transferred from Columbia to Yale and was eventually busted due to his quarrel with his boyfriend?
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 02:53 PM
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22. Well he didn't get away with it BUT
remember when coulter plagiarized all those comments and put them in her column and in her book. Heck they made a fuss but she didn't even apologize or admit they weren't hers.
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historian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 02:56 PM
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23. hey if primate bush got in
why not this person? He is certainly intelligent enough so let him have his degree then zap him with fraud charges or whatever our so called justice system can come up with
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 02:59 PM
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24. I think he'll one day be AG in Connecticut
He's definitely on the right track.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 03:08 PM
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25. On second thought, he should of just faked having a rich dad
He wouldn't of had to jump through hoops proving he was smart, and his plagiarism would of been acceptable.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 03:10 PM
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26. Only the Rich get away with being sociopathic compulsive liars.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 03:20 PM
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27. The last two years have given us ample evidence of what disasters are wrought ...
by "ingenious" folks like this once they hit the world after college. We already know how many get away with stuff like this until they bring the whole system down, or for that matter how many get away with it after having done so.

If you want further arguments, just imagine that this young man had not been caught, had graduated, and had then gone to work for BP, or Goldman Sachs.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 03:42 PM
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29. Petty thief with half a brain.
He's lucky he does not live in Saudi Arabia, where the half-brain would get lopped off.

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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 03:44 PM
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30. Goldman Sachs wil hire him. They need some men of his "caliber" to lie before Congress n/t
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 04:24 PM
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32. You gotta have a lot of nerve to think you can survive at Harvard
When you know you didn't really qualify to get in.

I recall reading of cases of people who had never been to law school practicing as lawyers - that takes so much chutzpah. You could get caught at any minutes. I'd be drenched in sweat!
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:53 PM
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34. This guy got to his senior year there
Edited on Tue May-18-10 11:54 PM by fujiyama
and while it's not clear what his grades were, I heard somewhere he got only one 'D' and the rest were 'A's and 'B's.

I think it's fairly well known that grade inflation is rampant there.

He's an idiot and got caught because he plagerized his essay (originally from a professor no less!) for a Rhodes or Fullbright scholarship and not only that but had courses on his transcript Andover or whatever prestigious HS didn't offer - and he had letter grades instead of numerical grades at MIT. What a dumb ass. He obviously was pretty sloppy and it's a wonder he wasn't caught earlier. He didn't do his homework before running such a major scam.
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apples and oranges Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 06:25 PM
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35. If I had the nerve to do something like that (which I don't and never would)
my tracks would be 100% covered. I think of all the little details.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 07:21 PM
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37. Sounds like he got cocky
He'd gotten away with so much already.

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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 04:32 PM
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33. I wish I owned the movie rights. n/t
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