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liberalmike27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 02:58 PM
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Rand Paul and the ?Tea Party?
Seriously, go to a Tea Party Rally, and should bring the troops home, or legalize drugs, and see what it gets you.

And the media is all over comparing him to the Tea Party. Apparently they don't know the difference from this new breed of "I'm not making enough money" rich people, and libertarian thought.

And why are the rich such ingrates? Always running around saying "I don't make enough," though it usually comes in the form of "I pay too much in taxes." They seem to fail to realize what they are left-over with, for some, to the extent of crashing a plane into a building. That guy had a house worth a quarter million, and he just threw it all away, by embracing his inner ingrate.

There is a class of Americans who should be pissed off, but it isn't the Tea Party, or the super rich.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 03:04 PM
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1. Arrogant sense of entitlement...and they have all the ignorant, poor lemmings
Edited on Thu May-20-10 03:07 PM by BrklynLiberal
running over the cliff with them....






Looks like someone regained consciousness
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liberalmike27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 03:23 PM
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5. Right
About half are filthy rich folks, mostly retired, who can afford to ride corporate bought busses all over the country crying like little babies, or screaming impudent children at town-halls all over the U.S.

The other half, you are right, are poor, duped folks, who don't even realize they've been harming themselves for decades.

Always knew, Republicans will never get elected without duping a certain number of folks, or conning people using their worst natures against them.
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liberalmike27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 03:24 PM
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6. Right
About half are filthy rich folks, mostly retired, who can afford to ride corporate bought busses all over the country crying like little babies, or screaming impudent children at town-halls all over the U.S.

The other half, you are right, are poor, duped folks, who don't even realize they've been harming themselves for decades.

Always knew, Republicans will never get elected without duping a certain number of folks, or conning people using their worst natures against them.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 03:12 PM
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2. Teabaggers.
Teabaggers.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 03:16 PM
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3. Well to be fair Ron Paul supporters would do just what you suggested. Ro
And no they would not be welcome at most tea parties, notice i said ron not Rand.

Most tea parties are republican theocratic hatefests.
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JackintheGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 03:23 PM
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4. Now hold on a sec!
*I* have a house valued a quarter of a million (sure sounds nice when you put it like that). I'm hardly rolling in wealth. In fact, I'm not sure where I'm going to get the money to pay my auto repair bill tomorrow. I certainly don't appreciate being lumped in with rich ingrates moaning about paying much in taxes. Having a house does *not* make you "super rich," as you most certainly imply. I'm an American, and I'm super pissed off. But I don't count because of what my house is worth $250K?

Look, I know that likely isn't what you meant. But words MEAN, and words can be twisted. Try to be careful out there.
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liberalmike27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 03:28 PM
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7. Well Jack (in the green?)
You need to look around a bit. That's a pretty nice place. I live in one worth 60 grand--I'm happy with it, but a quarter million is a pretty nice place.

I'd suggest people try to understand where they are in life, rather than always complaining about their taxes.

Seriously, if you are worried about paying the car repairs, then maybe you should've considered a house worth a hundred grand.

My sister and her husband are like that. They buy a huge house, he makes a couple-hundred grand a year, and they are always strapped. He buys new vehicles each year, has the country club membership, yet somehow he seems to overlook all of this, in his assessment of wealth.

I guess he thinks everyone is in the CC, and driving new vehicles all the time.

Seriously, get out, drive through the projects,look around, understand the other half. You may find you're wealthier than you allowed yourself to imagine.
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JackintheGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 04:36 PM
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8. Well, Mike, I've been the other half.
And I'm not so very far off from there as you seem to think a house's value deems. The only thing you know about me is that I live in a house *valued* at 250K, and that I might be strapped for a repair cost tomorrow. From this you assume I own a huge house, make a couple 100K a year, and new vehicles every year, and belong to a county club. At the very least, you equate me with your sister, who does.

You don't know my work, my family situation, my goals, my habits. You just make a ton of assumptions based upon the *value* of my house. Why do I keep stressing its *value*? I live in Philadelphia, one of the few places that didn't suffer from the housing bubble a couple years back, because we had ours several years before that. My house has gained value since I bought it. Weird, I know. But I wouldn't have been able to buy it there hadn't been a great big gift from my in-laws, who parents helped them buy their first house 25 years ago.

"Well, oh-ho, there you go!" I hear you saying. "You're family is wealthy, if they can buy you a 250K house." Sorry to disappoint you again. The money for the down payment on this house (yes, "irresponsible" people like me still make down payments) came from the sale of my wife's grandmother's house. See, she owned her house outright. Bought it in the 1950s for nothing and watched a very prosperous community grow around it. She may have had "wealth," in fact I don't dispute that she did. but it was tied up in her house. In her last years she still had difficulty paying for her meds because, while she owned "wealth" she wasn't wealthy. None of it was liquid. So when she died, the house was sold and split between her six kids. There goes the "wealth."

I'm a grad student. I know, I know. It just makes you sick to your stomach to hear me flaunt my sexy, high paying job. My wife works in a small engineering firm. We don't make car payments. We own them outright. We have never bought a new car. Our newest is an '02. We don't live extravagantly by any measure I can think of. We just happened to be given a gift from our dead grandmother so that we could buy the house that my wife grew up dreaming of owning. Literally. And then it had the *gumption* to increase it's value?!? How dare something out of our control lose us our "poor people street cred."

I worked in the projects for years. Teaching. In North Philly. Maybe that's how I managed to save so damn much money for this mansion I own. Before that I worked three jobs while my wife worked two so that one of us could always be home with our then infant daughter. I've never been on the dole, but dammit I've been close. At one point I earned just a shade under $12,000 a year, for a family of three. Don't you dare tell me I don't understand the "other half."

Believe you me, I understand what I have, that I am more fortunate than a lot of people. But I am not "wealthy." My house, this quarter million dollar mansion that I inhabit, is in one of the more affluent parts of the state, with one of the best school districts. *That's* why my house is *valued* so highly: people would give their eye-teeth to move into this district. But not my neighborhood, mind you. We live by the train tracks, in the last house in the district, next to a park that for years was a notorious drug hang-out and has only recently been cleaned up. How recently? Last year our next door neighbors, the last open dealers in the neighborhood, were finally evicted.

So DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE tell me I don't understand the other half!

And the repair payment? Didn't I mention? I've been out of work for nearly a year. Yeah, even as a grad student, with all the riches showered down upon us, I worked.

So yeah, I'll sit here smugly on my pile of riches looking down on all the little people.

:rant:
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