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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 11:42 AM
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Some things cannot be fixed with money.
I was at a craft fair a few years ago. At one booth I admired the handmade wooden boxes - rosewood, burlwood, very well made and all unique. A young guy comes along with a group of friends, and he idly starts flipping and banging the hinged boxes - being very careless. The artisan chides him gently, asking him to be careful. The kid looks up and says, "What? I can pay for it!" The artisan answers back, "Yes, but there will never be another box like that again. It cannot be replaced with money." The kid stalks off muttering.

I'm not sure any corporation has enough money to fix the Gulf disaster. We've never seen anything like this. Spills from tankers spread over the surface where booms can fence part of it in. Leaking gushers from the floor of the sea? No. We have nothing to combat this. We're making it up as we go along. The only real solution is to not let it happen - ever! And we know that corporations cannot regulate themselves to this extent, so the government has to. Sadly, our current administration doesn't show any sign of changing course on regulating drilling.

We've broken the box, and it's gone for good. We can try to take all of BP's money, but that doesn't revive a dead Gulf.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 11:45 AM
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1. This is an excellent way of explaining the situation...
It's rather like trying to restore virginity.

You can't. Once it's gone, it's gone for good.

:-(
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 11:51 AM
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2. and things a mile under the sea can't be fixed by willing it
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 11:53 AM
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3. Yep, we are absolutely screwed and this Administration fails to recognize that.
I just can't believe that there isn't a total shut down of offshore oil drilling and a great deal of discussion as to how to combat this disaster.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 12:19 PM
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8. what makes you assume there is not a great deal of discussion? nt
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 11:54 AM
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4. Not that BP, Transocean, or Halliburton have said: "What? I can pay for it!"
BP's statements fall far short of that.

So, imagine, even the young punk in your story was more responsible than are gigantic corporations. Well, nothing new about that.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 11:57 AM
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5. But, we should still take all their money
I believe in the death penalty -- for corporations. If the government creates corporations, then the government can kill them when they do something like this.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 12:17 PM
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7. Yes, I agree. n/t
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 11:59 AM
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6. But but but, BP said the spill will just be modest.
These businesses don't care about people, just the bottom line. I hope all three go out of business, but I don't think it will stop the 'next one'.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 12:24 PM
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9. "And we know that corporations cannot regulate themselves to this extent..."
"And we know that corporations cannot regulate themselves to this extent, so the government has to."

"The only real solution is to not let it happen - ever!"

And we know that humans cannot regulate themselves to this extent, so the planet has to. Yet we don't like those regulations anymore than corporations enjoy theirs.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 12:29 PM
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10. You can go ahead and list some - I doubt I'll disagree.
Using fossil fuels? Driving polluting cars? Pouring toxic chemicals in our water? Pretty foolish. But we need real leadership to truly move in that direction, and I don't see it coming from this administration.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 12:56 PM
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11. Oh I'd say the regulations we don't like are far more fundamental than that
Edited on Fri May-21-10 12:59 PM by The2ndWheel
Not just driving polluting cars, but really any form of mechanical transportation. Human beings have a limit to how quickly and how far we can move. We don't like those limits. Which means you can't stop at mechanical transportation, but you also have to include animal transportation. You can't even just focus on the transportation part, but also the roads. Our roads are very destructive environmentally. Then of course it's not just the roads, but pretty much anything the roads make possible for us to do.

Add the longevity, health, food, etc. We find ways around all of those rules and regulations. Hell, we want to write the rules for those aspects of life. The same way X and Y corporations want to write the rules that govern them.
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