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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 07:57 AM
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Cancer patients try out psychedelic
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-adna-psychedelic-therapy-20100522,0,5623490.story


Cancer patients try out psychedelic
Psilocybin, the active ingredient in 'magic mushrooms,' is used in a New York University study as part of psychotherapeutic treatment for anxiety caused by the disease. Patients react positively.

By Malcolm Ritter, Associated Press
May 22, 2010

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That's how Nicky Edlich, 67, began her first-ever trip on a psychedelic drug last year.

She says it has greatly helped her psychotherapeutic treatment for anxiety from her advanced ovarian cancer.

And for researchers, it was another small step toward showing that hallucinogenic drugs, famous but condemned in the 1960s, can one day help doctors treat conditions such as cancer anxiety and post-traumatic stress disorder.

The New York University study Edlich participated in is among a handful now going on in the United States and elsewhere with drugs such as LSD, MDMA (ecstasy) and psilocybin, the main ingredient of "magic mushrooms." The work follows lines of research choked off four decades ago by the war on drugs. The research is still preliminary. But at least it's there.

"There is now more psychedelic research taking place in the world than at any time in the last 40 years," said Rick Doblin, executive director of the Multidisciplinary Assn. for Psychedelic Studies, which funds some of the work. "We're at the end of the beginning of the renaissance."

He said more than 1,200 people attended a conference in California last weekend on psychedelic science.

But doing the research is not easy, Doblin and others say, with government funders still leery and drug companies not interested in the compounds they can't patent. That pretty much leaves private donors.

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BakedAtAMileHigh Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 08:00 AM
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1. Never forget: set, setting and dosage, people
Those three factors are vital to any successful meta-programming experience.

Psychedelics work in this fashion by helping you grow comfortable with the prospect of your own death. Everyone should try it.
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LiberalLoner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 08:01 AM
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2. Maybe that will work - not sure I would recommend LSD though - I took that once by
accident (tried some pot as a teen that had been laced with acid, unbeknownst to me) and I had a mildly bad trip. Felt a lot of anxiety until I came down, many hours later. Wasn't anything I'd want to do again to be honest. But maybe other people have a better experience than that.
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LiberalLoner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 08:02 AM
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3. P.S. I do have to say, purple is really INTERESTING when you are on acid. I came to the
conclusion, purple is the color of God, from that experience. I think at the time I thought purple WAS God, but I've revised that belief since then.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 08:02 AM
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4. I believe LSD would be destroyed by smoking it
Edited on Sat May-22-10 08:06 AM by G_j
must have been something else
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LiberalLoner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 08:05 AM
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5. Oh, thank you! Didn't know that. Wonder what it was? Well, then, I'll keep an open mind
about acid. I know for sure it wasn't just the pot. I was high for hours and couldn't sit still and kept seeing aliens out of the corner of my eyes that I felt were pursuing me. Real paranoid stuff. I thought for sure it was acid because I was having weird hallucinations like the ground having waves like the ocean.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 08:10 AM
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6. perhaps DMT
that is reported to be a short but very intense trip!

there also a variety of mint, I forget the name, that was being sold in head shops, that creates a trip of some kind.
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LiberalLoner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 08:14 AM
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8. Oh...there wasn't any mint smell or taste...I dunno....it was from California, I remember
my friend saying it was "good stuff from California." Pardon my complete ignorance, but what is DMT? I was high for at least 3-4 hours...I thought that was a long time to be high. I was only having hallucinations though for like maybe an hour. Then the paranoia kicked in and I was walking all over town, trying to get away from whatever it was I thought was going to get me.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 08:24 AM
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10. of course you'll never know for sure
in older cultures, these things were done in specific settings, with specific purposes, not recreationally.
To plan ahead, choosing a safe setting, a trusted friend, etc. is the best approach.

I forget what DMT stands for, but it only lasts a few minutes, and you are probably lucky that it wasn't what you smoked.
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 01:30 PM
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16. Salvia Divinorum
LSD is nothing compared to salvia, IMO. Not even in the same ballpark for me.

Ever experience nothingness? I felt "broken" for months. The closest I can describe it is the place the spaceship went to in "Event Horizon."

As much as a mindfuck as it was, I felt fortunate to have experienced it.
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LiberalLoner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 08:11 AM
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7. Well that's good. I'm a child of the 60's and to be honest with you, I wanted to LIKE acid. I grew
up listening to the Beatles and thinking acid must be the coolest stuff ever. :) Now I can regain my youthful opinion of acid. :)

Maybe it was PCP or something that the stuff was laced with. It was just a plain old weird experience. And I'd only tried pot once before that time, and didn't get high in the least, so it was really a new experience for me.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 08:30 AM
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11. I'm guessing PCB
strychnine also makes colors incredibly intense...but I'm still guessing PCB.
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azul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 10:03 AM
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15. Poly-chlorinated biphenyls?
Is that the real reason they were outlawed?
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 06:30 AM
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18. I mean PCP!
oops...a senior moment crept up!
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 08:17 AM
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9. I doubt it was acid-most likely PCP.
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LiberalLoner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 09:03 AM
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12. Thanks, guys! Well, I don't like PCP then, and don't recommend it, LOL! n/t
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 09:08 AM
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13. Adulus Huxley did LSD on his deathbed
He said it took the pain and brought it to


A Brave New World (no he didn't say that but he did take it)

It is a transending don't you know?
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azul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 09:56 AM
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14. Albert Hoffman's book, LSD- My Problem Child,
discusses how LSD was tried on terminal patients to try to wake them up out of the fog of medications and pain.

Way back when it was a drug in search of an indication, it was also tried as an anti-psychotic, with low dose, MDMA-like at-oneness effect tried in Europe and hallucinogenic dose blast-away effect tried here in the USA.

He then provided some to the researcher Timothy Leary and the molecule somehow lost its legal marketability.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 01:32 PM
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17. Good. I wish them luck and I hope they get some good results from this.
The war on some drugs is an utter failure, anyway.
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