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celtics23 Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 04:15 PM
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Conservative Wingnut Says We're Being Spied on with RFID Chips everywhere...in BELTS!
This guy Grant Jeffrey has the whole gamut of anti-liberal conspiracy theories, and predicts the end of the world. Funniest is he suggests RFID chips in just about every product around are being used to track your every move. Oh of course none of this was a concern during GWB...


http://www.midweekpolitics.com/grant-jeffrey/
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aliciaabs19 Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 04:16 PM
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1. RFID
Haven't RFID chips been around for years?
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tins0404 Donating Member (172 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 04:17 PM
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2. Of course
This guy is a total wingnut and this is all just about politics
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 04:26 PM
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3. Guess what, they track everything you purchase too.
It is hard to deal with these idiots without laughing.

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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 04:29 PM
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4. Those are anti-theft tags. If he paid for the stuff, they'd take them off
:eyes:
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 04:40 PM
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5. LOL
At the link, check out the poll just left of the video screen:

Should there be criminal charges in the BP oil spill?

Yes (61%, 76 Votes)No (25%, 31 Votes)I don't know (14%, 17 Votes)Total Voters: 124

(AND, to the author of the OP, celtics23, welcome to DU! :hi: )
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celtics23 Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 05:07 PM
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6. I voted yes
!
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 10:00 PM
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11. Thanks. I did my part to help.
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celtics23 Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 06:29 PM
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7. Hahah
I think you might be no to the problem
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 08:05 PM
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8. Whatever you do, don't tell him about the RFID chips in
underwear....Mum's the word.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 08:10 PM
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9. I thought everyone was in agreement
not to let the repubs know about our ultra top secret tracking plan.
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 08:16 PM
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10. Sounds like he needs professional help.
Welcome to DU.
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troubledamerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 02:46 AM
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12. Neocon Tommy Thompson, on board of Verichip, got a chip implant while in Bush Admin.
But Christians didn't accuse Bush then of working for the Antichrist, did they?

Google Tommy Thompson + Verichip
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 11:38 AM
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17. Christian Alex Jones did
n/t.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 09:13 AM
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13. If you bought it at WalMart, that's probably true. They require RFID in products.
Not just the box, but the product. They instituted that a couple of years ago, starting with the major suppliers. Even things like disposable razors have to have them. They claim it is for "inventory control" and that they are deactivated at the checkout, but the reality is that there is NO way to permanently deactivate one. A simple device can reactivate it - if it actually gets deactivated in the first place.

CASPIAN has been on this for a LONG time.
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celtics23 Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 11:09 AM
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14. Wait...
So every single product at Walmart, even Fruit of the Loom socks, have an RFID chip? Where on the packaging is it?
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 11:27 AM
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15. That was their objective, but I think there are some practical limitations.
If it is clothing, almost certainly - but probably not socks. I can sort of see the appeal to a major retailer since you can point an inventory scanner at a wall of crates and it will suck in every single RFID number for inventory purposes. Yes, they can do that. It cuts down on time, but I'm sure what is MORE important for WalMart is cutting down on salaries.

Originally, yes, they said "every product". In practice, they put the original deadline (which if I recall correctly was in Sept. 2008) on the top 1000 suppliers. In the real world, they ran into limitations. The chips cost a fraction of a cent and there are more than enough IDs to cover every consumer product produced world-wide for decades. They're also dinky and can be embedded in the manufacturing of plastics, glued to an internal surface, or sewn into clothing seams (and they are waterproof).

Minority Report, here we come. Yes, they can be reactivated. Although retailers who track shoppers generally trick them with "loyalty cards", there's nothing in the technology that prevents a retailer from activating all RFID chips that enter or leave a store, record all of the items being worn or carried by an individual, cross-reference it to a purchasing database, and in less than a second produce a targeted ad on a screen based on the results. To the best of my knowledge, nobody has gone quite that far yet, but they're going down that path. It is really just an extension of what already happens when you surf the web.

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celtics23 Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 11:37 AM
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16. Wow
Incredible and fascinating, but pretty scary
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 11:47 AM
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19. If it's for "inventory control"...
...would it not set off the anti-shoplifting scanners at the door if it were not deactivated? And, if it remained active, would it not set off the scanner every time a person wore RFID-chipped clothing to the store?
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celtics23 Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 03:06 PM
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22. This is a good point
Does anyone have the answer?
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 11:38 AM
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18. I wonder how many
microscopic RFID chips they can put into a tube of Preparation H®
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celtics23 Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 01:03 PM
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21. Hehe
I think I don't want to know
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 11:58 AM
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20. My cat is spying on me!
:scared:
When their eyes glow they're sending information to the CIA! Or maybe the FBI...or is it the SPCA...?
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