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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 06:13 PM
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This is why we need to elect our US Attorney General every 2 years.
Instead of the AG being a presidential appointed position.

The Aristocracy of America is above the law.

No high ranking official, public or private will be prosecuted under Holder and damn sure NOT at the behest of this President.

I'm fast losing faith.
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mynameiswhat Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 06:16 PM
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1. very much so...
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 06:19 PM
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2. me too
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 06:20 PM
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3. me3
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 06:23 PM
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4. Would that need a change to the constitution?
Would that person be elected on the same basis as the president? How in the world could they fund a nationwide campaign. And if they could fund it wouldn't it be all corporate money?
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marybourg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 06:25 PM
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5. Yeah, electing G Bush 2x shows that direct democracy really works and that
we're great at picking politicians for the job they've self selected. Get a new hobby horse!
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 06:25 PM
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6. Fine, how do you suggest overcoming the political hurdles in order
to amend the constitution to implement your idea?

Quite frankly, I'd fight any such effort tooth and nail as I'm sure the vast majority would.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 06:33 PM
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7. Oh sure ...

... because having elected AGs at the state and county level has clearly eliminated all the problems that ever existed. There's never any corruption or elitism or graft. Squeaky clean, answerable to the people with their votes.

You know what'd be really awesome?

What if -- stick with me here -- what if somehow Dennis Kucinich were elected President and Robert Bork the AG.

Now, since the Justice Department is actually a creation of the Executive, clearly we would have had to have some constitutional amendments to allow this whole thing to happen in the first place, but let's say we managed that. Now, we've got this awesome super-liberal in the White House, and he's responsible for executing the laws. One way he executes laws is through the DoJ. President Kucinich comes along and says he wants to prosecute each and ever corporation in the entire country, and old Bork tells him "Fuck you. What I'm going to do instead is start an investigation of your office for attempting to undermine 14th amendment protections that apply to corporations." Now what happens?

This is why we need to think about what we're offering as solutions to problems before going off about them.

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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 06:46 PM
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11. I believe in today's political climate, a charismatic progressive could win.
A few years ago, no way.

The pendulum is swinging left, slowly. But it is swinging left.

To answer your Q about an elected righty AG going after a progressive pres..

A failed attempt at a frivolous investigation or attempt at indictment would be the political undoing of an elected AG. It's what keeps state elected AG's somewhat honest.

Ive spent the past 30 years since Ray-gun's election thinking about this.

BTW im a huge fan of Baldur's Gate I&II, Icewind Dale I&II. Epic games. I may re-load them and play BG as bard or some wimp class and see if I can beat it LOL.

Peace
UY
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 07:19 PM
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14. That's not the point ...

The point is that altering the constitution and the nature of how our federal government works such that the head of the chief law enforcement department of the country is an elected official will result in the executive branch being completely incapable of doing their job.

You're not suggesting we change the nature of the AG position so that he or she becomes an elected official. You're suggesting a complete re-writing of the Constitution itself.

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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 06:37 PM
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8. every 2 years...? I understand wanting to elect the AG but...every
730 days? The campaigning will never stop and the lies will never end.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 06:39 PM
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9. That panacea you are clinging to is actually pretty deranged.
It has all the attributes of a Republican policy: utterly shortsighted and completely unnoticing of both likely and unintended consequences.

You sit and think about it for a while. Let's start with how anything could be prosecuted by someone always running for office and soliciting campaign funds. Let's start there.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 06:42 PM
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10. I think a name change is due. He should be called the President's Attorney
General since he can only prosecute with presidential permission.

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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 07:06 PM
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12. There should be more than one of them. 8-yr terms. Four of them.
If they cannot decide which should take a case, have a jury decide or draw straws for them.

Elect again every four years or when a vacancy occurs.
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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 07:09 PM
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13. Ouhh I like your idea better than my OP.
:fistbump:

Seriously, that would make a great system.

:thumbsup:
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 07:32 PM
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16. Understand that I pulled it out of thin air. We use it at my church.
Staggered terms. It works well. Keeps continuity.

The competing AGs is really to anger the ultra-rich who buy all our Congress-critters and media hacks. They'll have to buy all four. Not that hard, but harder at least.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 07:20 PM
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15. Should be obvious the everyone at this point that the Obama Justice Department
Edited on Sun May-23-10 07:21 PM by depakid
has become a sad farce in this regard.
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 08:43 PM
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17. Yeah, like we have so much confidence in our current elected officials ...
and then add to that the corporations are people meme and we'd be sorely screwed.
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