So the Coast Guard is in charge of the cleanup?

It really doesn't seem like they are doing too much. They burned a little oil on the surface. They're talking about bringing in more resources if BP doesn't do it first. I searched to try to find what they're doing and there ain't much out there. Can anyone provide me with links that show there's a well organized massive clean-up in progress under the direction of the Coast Guard. I sure would appreciate it.

The latest statement from the government isn't real encouraging:

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Napolitano declared the spill a crisis of "national significance" on Thursday. That's a move that Coast Guard Rear Adm. Mary Landry said allows the government to pour resources from across the country into the effort.

"If BP does not request these resources, I can and I will," Landry told reporters in New Orleans.
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Really, you dumbass mutherfucker? Any idea when that might happen? Well hey, no rush. Take your time. :rofl:


There are two distinct problems here. (1) How to seal the blowout volcano of crude, (2)and how to clean up the oil.

I'll accept that BP may be the only ones with the resources to fix the leak. (though I still have doubts about that). The clean-up is a different issue. These are our waters and coastlines and marshlands. We should be allowed to do whatever we need to do to protect them.

They need to chill with the toxic dispersant and let the oil rise to the surface, and get as many friggin' skimmers and Kostner-Vacs and good-'ol-boys with bales of hay, and whatever the hell it takes to clean it up as best as possible. Buy respirators and protective gear for the workers who are doing the job (ie: the fisherman who are fucked because of B fucking P). And then of course, B fucking P still pays the tab for all the workers and equipment, and all the other damage they've caused. Someone surely is capable of co-ordinating the project if the Coast Guard is this clueless. I mean, I could do it with my stage manager and rock and roll touring experience. You get the right equipment to the right place at the right time and you do the fucking show. If the Coast Guard is in charge, why are they waiting on BP to order up resources? It's bullshit that nobody has the capability except for B fucking P. There are skimming vessels available. We need every single one that exists on the planet in the gulf now.

I keep hearing that we can't legally do anything to take any power from BP. We have contracts and congressional promises to big oil. Well tough shit! When B fucking P blew off the EPA on the dispersant issue, that alone should declare all contracts and agreements and congressional deals NULL AND VOID! This is a national emergency, not an event of "national significance"! Other posters have scoffed at the idea that it's a national emergency, but I totally disagree. We need to drop the hammer on these greedy, incompetent mutherfuckers!

If these dudes were on a tour I was running, I would put 'em on the greyhound back to Duckburg.

Clusterfuck

people need to be careful what they wish for and think about alternatives for a change

from word go...

Not that most folks round these parts even knew that.

As to the clusterfuck... all disasters have an element of that...

Not enough action IMO. It's a joke.

he seemed to be reading a BP press release. That was early on, and I got an immediate feeling that things were not going to go well. I don't think the admiral is up to the job. Obama should have put a pro in charge right away. The fact that Allen's still running things after 33 days doesn't say much for the way the administration is handling this. Or maybe it says all we need to know.

They first thing to do is click on http://training.fema.gov/EMIWeb/IS/IS100a.asp">FEMA: IS-100.a Introduction to Incident Command System, ICS-100 and just explore some of the links. It explains what an "Incident Commander" is and what the "Incident Commander" does.

This Incident Command System was a response to the "Oakland Hills Fire" where neighboring Fire Departments were actually trying to cooperate with each other --- but ended up running into each other and interfering with each other.

Fire departments use it, the Red Cross and the Salvation Army use it. That's where I learned about it -- managing a Red Cross Shelter at Katrina.

The Coast Guard Commandant is the "Incident Commander."

Before you snark -- follow the http://training.fema.gov/EMIWeb/IS/IS100a.asp"> link.

and in fact I was IC for a few, including a flood.

Thanks...

By the way WIKI's primer is more basic and in a sense better.

But, I don't see the sense of urgency that is required here. Know what I mean?

because they are.

What they are lacking is this sense of PR, which either the government sucks at, or really sucks at.

Been posting a link to it all day... by the way.

http://www.deepwaterhorizonresponse.com/go/site/2931/

There you go.

You get no argument from me that they do suck at the PR side though... a website is not sufficient.

They should have a PIO going on the teevee machine every few hours, IMO.

Seriously.

http://www.deepwaterhorizonresponse.com/go/doc/2931/543103/

Current Operations and Ongoing Response
TODAY: Saturday, MAY 22

The Unified Area Command continues to work closely together with the Responsible Party and Federal, State, local and tribal partners in anticipating requirements, identifying response options, and rapidly providing response support.



The following is a synopsis of our daily response efforts:

Total response vessels: 1150

Containment Boom deployed: more than 1.52 million feet

Containment boom available: more than 310,000 feet

Sorbent boom deployed: more than 560,000 feet

Sorbent boom available: more than 1.27 million feet

Total boom deployed: more than 2 million feet (regular plus sorbent boom)

Total boom available: more than 1.58 million feet (regular plus sorbent boom)

Oily water recovered: more than 9.73 million gallons

Surface dispersant used: approximately 630,000 gallons

Subsea dispersant used: approximately 85,000

Total dispersant used: approximately 670,000

Dispersant available: more than 375,000 gallons

Overall personnel responding: more than 24,900

A bunch of stoners sitting around in the dorm room talking about ordering a pizza but never quite getting around to it.

gave updates (including a Coast Guard spokesperson). I came away from it feeling they're actually working fast and furious, 24/7. There's a group representing several different areas including other oil companies, engineers, marine experts, etc. Although to us it may not seem they're doing enough, I got the impression they're coming at it with a sense of urgency. These people weren't sing-songing BS trying to minimize the horror, you could tell they were upset and frustrated, too.

I believe there may be additional skimming vessels there, I THINK what BP has is the equipment to drill baby drill to that depth that maybe others don't.

I'm interested to see how they deal with BP blowing off the EPA. I think the directive was if BP couldn't locate or use another dispersant, they were to thoroughly explain in writing WHY. They had 24 hours, but today Salazar (of all people) was pissed saying BP has missed deadline after deadline. I really think there will be some criminal charges here.

And, Obama said that BP may be unable to get any more federal contracts which would be worth billions to them. I hope that's the result, too.

Anyway, I'm changing my view to the stance that I believe they're really trying to get this resolved and are totally aware of the importance of doing it as quickly as possible. I'd still like to see more, of course, but again I realize that just because I'm not in the loop and know what's going on, that doesn't mean they're doing nothing. :shrug:

http://www.wwl.com/Coast-guard-is---slow-and-dumb---as-boom-sits-on-d/7157975
http://www.wwltv.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/Jindal-questions-oil-spill-response-Coast-Guard-official-takes-blame--94624594.html


Stanton: "It’s my job to direct this response in Louisiana.”

Reporter: “Why didn’t you do it?”

Stanton: “Well, the why -- is that really important?”

Reporter: “Yes sir, we live here.”

Stanton: “Well, I guess I'm just slow and dumb."


These guys are no better than BP.

But I can't.