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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 08:45 PM Original message |
The disagreements at DU are not about "Obama" per se' |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
1. No, it is not about severity and nature |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 08:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. We may not have that capacity |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 09:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. +1 LOL, good one |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 09:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. But we do actually agree on far more than not... |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 09:22 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. There's nothing to talk about... |
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onpatrol98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 12:22 PM Response to Reply #11 |
55. I take it you're unimpressed so far with this administration |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 09:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. If I might add, progressives do have a pragmatic side |
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caledesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 09:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Well said! nt |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 09:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. I believe there are many pragrmatic progressives. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 09:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Take one big, long, look at the Gulf, and tell us again how much we need to "compromise". |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 10:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
31. There is often no middle ground between right and wrong |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
7. I generally agree with your statement. This is pretty much what I see |
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pscot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 09:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. Elegant summary |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 09:52 PM Original message |
Thanks. Just trying to call em as I see em |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 07:11 AM Response to Reply #16 |
52. We can give TheKentuckian a +1. nt |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 10:05 PM Response to Reply #7 |
28. Beautifully stated! n/t |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 10:53 PM Response to Reply #7 |
43. Very astute post. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
8. No, you don't get it at all. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 09:35 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. That doesn't make any sense. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 09:41 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Two issues, huh? |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 09:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. He does get his priorities passed through Congress on a regular basis. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 09:52 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. I'm sure its much easier to pass |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 10:30 PM Response to Reply #17 |
38. "Obama signs Patriot Act extension without reforms" |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 11:09 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Three portions. So not all of it then? |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 11:49 PM Response to Reply #38 |
50. So I went back and finished that article. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 09:48 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Now I see your edit. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 10:32 PM Response to Reply #20 |
40. About that money coming back in... |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 09:58 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. Obama works hard to push the corporate agenda, no question; |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 11:07 PM Response to Reply #25 |
44. Corporations have been just begging for cap and trade, banking and credit card regulation, HRC. |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 12:14 PM Response to Reply #44 |
53. LOL Wall St. is Relieved at this Banking "Reform" |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:13 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. "Wall Street's main objection seems to be that the bill overreaches." |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 10:40 PM Response to Reply #15 |
42. Thank you. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 09:57 PM Response to Reply #8 |
24. I don't know about anyone else... |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 10:17 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. +1. The two views can be summed up as tradition Democrats (liberal progressives) |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 11:16 PM Response to Reply #24 |
46. Reagan wouldn't have passed more banking regulation or made the tax code more progressive. |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
9. Progressives Are The Pragmatic Group |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 09:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
23. True, there is nothing at all pragmatic about fake solutions to real problems |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 10:09 PM Response to Reply #9 |
29. That is what's so infuriating. We know what works. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 10:21 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. It's infuriating that it's no longer just the GOP that we have to battle on this point |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 10:24 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. That's a really frustrating part. Can't we just send Reagan back where he came from? eom |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
13. The differences are over policy. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 10:19 PM Response to Reply #13 |
34. I can't speak for others but it's all about policy for me. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
14. nice |
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pscot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 09:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. If you aren't part of the solution, |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 11:17 PM Response to Reply #21 |
47. Yeah |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
19. No, I perceive that some people are never satisfied |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
26. K & R for a very civil attempt at discussion. |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
27. Well Done... K & R !!! |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
30. Though I disagree with some of your points |
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PufPuf23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
32. I think most of us want better and support the Democratic Party and Obama |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
36. Good post. Thank you for writing it. nt |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
39. k&r |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
41. For me they are. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
48. On second thought. Some liberals are gullible and some are not. |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
49. Does Obama deserve criticism? Sure. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-10 11:51 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Yep. |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
54. .. |
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