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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 06:26 PM
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Davey Crockett gave up his political career to do what was right
how many like him do we have in office today? Not too many I suggest. There seems to be an underlying theme of destroying things/people/places in order to save them. I wish this weren't true but apparently it is. Gawd how I detest self righteous indignation.

"I would sooner be honestly damned than hypocritically immortalized"
Davy Crockett
His political career destroyed because he supported the Cherokee, he left Washington D. C. and headed west to Texas.

http://ngeorgia.com/history/nghisttt.html

In his book Don't Know Much About History, Kenneth C. Davis writes:

Hollywood has left the impression that the great Indian wars came in the Old West during the late 1800's, a period that many think of simplistically as the "cowboy and Indian" days. But in fact that was a "mopping up" effort. By that time the Indians were nearly finished, their subjugation complete, their numbers decimated. The killing, enslavement, and land theft had begun with the arrival of the Europeans. But it may have reached its nadir when it became federal policy under President (Andrew) Jackson.
The Cherokees in 1828 were not nomadic savages. In fact, they had assimilated many European-style customs, including the wearing of gowns by Cherokee women. They built roads, schools and churches, had a system of representational government, and were farmers and cattle ranchers. A Cherokee alphabet, the "Talking Leaves" was perfected by Sequoyah.
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Itchinjim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 06:42 PM
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1. Didn't he go to Texas to fight for their Independence and their "right" to own slaves?
Edited on Mon May-24-10 06:43 PM by Itchinjim
That's the story I heard.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 07:01 PM
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4. Ooops.... that's the story I didn't hear. My bad. n/t
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 07:14 PM
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9. Yep, all the major figures of the Alamo fight, Crockett, Travis, and Bowie, were
pro-slavery Southerners hoping to expand slavery to the western territories.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 07:16 PM
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10. Dayammmn... I'd better change my moniker, it isn't wearing well. n/t
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 07:20 PM
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11. Don't be too hard on yourself. I was born and raised in San Antonio. I didn't learn the truth
about the hyped-up legend until I was an adult. They certainly don't teach the truth (or much of anything anymore, really) in Texas. Just the legend.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 07:25 PM
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12. Mexicans gave the Texans land based on three promises, all of which they welshed on
The deal was: give up slaves, learn Spanish and convert to Catholicism.

Both William Travis and Jim Bowie were slave owners, and both had slaves at the Alamo; Travis definitely, Bowie not so certainly.

How to piss off a Texan, part one...
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whyverne Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 06:49 PM
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2. Well, you're not going to be invited to any tea parties.
The Xtians stole this country unfair and unsquare and god didn't stop them, so it must have been all right with him.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 07:32 PM
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13. Can I get an AMEN!! Put your hands on the radio and feel the
power!!!!! unfair and unsquare... sad that some running from persecution could persecute so well. I guess a phrase could have been "No axe nation without eradication".
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 06:58 PM
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3. Did he have a political career to give up...
after he was defeated in the 1834 Congressional election?

Sid
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 07:04 PM
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6. Ooops.... 2 votes. That will make the difference... still his beliefs
may have made him less than popular with the gang he hung around with.

Crockett grew up in East Tennessee, where he gained a reputation for hunting and storytelling. After being elected to the rank of colonel in the militia of Lawrence County, Tennessee, he was elected to the Tennessee state legislature in 1821. In 1826, Crockett was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives. Congressman Crockett vehemently opposed many of the policies of President Andrew Jackson, most notably the Indian Removal Act. Crockett's opposition to Jackson's policies led to his defeat in the 1834 elections, prompting his angry departure to Texas shortly thereafter. In early 1836, Crockett took part in the Texas Revolution and was killed at the Battle of the Alamo in March.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 07:04 PM
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5. It's good to know that they weren't nomadic SAVAGES.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 07:14 PM
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8. Demonizing others in order to justify what you are willing to do to
them seems to be a recurring theme of western civilization.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 07:12 PM
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7. Among the charming customs the Cherokees had assimilated
Among the charming customs the Cherokees had assimilated, in addition to representative government and gowns for the ladies, was slavery.

History is complicated.

David Crockett did leave his former constituents with a very eloquent farewell message, to be sure. "I'm going to Texas and you all cn go to Hell."
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