The USA already has a single payer health care system, seems to me,

raccoon

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Tue May-25-10 07:59 AM
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The USA already has a single payer health care system, seems to me,

only thing is, you have to be 65 or over to qualify. (Or be disabled.)

As an almost 60-year-old who hasn't had group medical insurance since the early 1990s, this really pisses me off. :grr:

I have a high-deductible individual health insurance policy that specifically excludes 2 pre-existing health conditions. (Which is why individual insurance sucks mightily.)

If single payer is so great for those over 65, why isn't it great for those under 65? :shrug:

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Captain Hilts

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Tue May-25-10 08:01 AM
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1. The White House doesn't think Single Payer or a Public Option are worth talking about. nt

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hayu_lol

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Tue May-25-10 08:06 AM
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2. I assume you are talking about Medicare...

as single-payer. It is not single-payer. Both Medicare and the RECIPIENT of care pay the bills for care.

Single-payer is what it says it is...it pays ALL costs connected with treatment.

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raccoon

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Tue May-25-10 08:09 AM
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3. Are you sure about that? Well, let's say "national health plan" then.

"Single-payer is what it says it is...it pays ALL costs connected with treatment."

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Captain Hilts

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Tue May-25-10 08:10 AM
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5. I've lived in Canada. I know what single payer is and how it works. nt

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shaayecanaan

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Wed May-26-10 10:03 AM
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11. Thats not really single payer...

Nor is Medicare in Australia, notwithstanding what Wikipedia says on that point.

The distinguishing feature of a single payer system is that there is only one entity paying for all of the services, therefore there is much less administrative costs and complexity in obtaining payment for medical services.

The public hospital systems run in the various Canadian provinces are arguable single payer, but Medicare itself is not, as it isnt the only health insurer in the market (about 30% of Canadians have some type of health insurance).

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DrDan

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Tue May-25-10 08:09 AM
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4. good question to pose to the administration (the same one that traded

away single-payer before negotiations even started)

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Captain Hilts

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Tue May-25-10 08:12 AM
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6. BINGO: The key word is "BEFORE" the negotiations started.

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msongs

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Tue May-25-10 08:33 AM
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7. because congress and Obama have great health care and you don't? nt

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zipplewrath

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Tue May-25-10 08:35 AM
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8. Medicare Part D

Biggest mistake made was calling it the "public option". Shoulda just called it Medicare Part E and then argued about how low an age, and how high a cost. Probably coulda thrown in the whole "26 year old adult child" feature under that and gotten the next generation of tax payers used to the idea that they "purchase" their health insurance from the government.

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Denver Dave

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Wed May-26-10 09:46 AM
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9. Grayson's bill HR 4789

I thought Grayson's bill HR 4789 - Medicare You Can Buy Into Act was a wonderful idea. After all the hoopla, not even a vote on a "real" public option. www.WeWantMedicare.org

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harun

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Wed May-26-10 09:54 AM
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10. It is a great idea. They need to bring it to a vote.

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