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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 08:57 AM
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General Petraeus' Secret Ops
http://www.thenation.com/blog/general-petraeus-secret-ops

The Dreyfuss Report

General Petraeus' Secret Ops
Robert Dreyfuss
May 25, 2010

A secret military directive signed last September 30 by General David Petraeus, the Centcom commander, authorizes a vast expansion of secret U.S. military special ops from the Horn of Africa to the Middle East to Central Asia and “appears to authorize specific operations in Iran,” according to the New York Times.

If President Obama knew about this, authorized it, and still supports it, then Obama has crossed a red line, and the president will stand revealed as an aggressive, militaristic liberal interventionist who bears a closer resemblance to the president he succeeded than to the ephemeral reformer that he pretended to be in 2008, when he ran for office. If he didn’t know, if he didn’t understand the order, and if he’s unwilling to cancel it now that it’s been publicized, then Obama is a feckless incompetent. Take your pick.

If Congress has any guts at all, it will convene immediate investigative hearings into a power grab by Petraeus, a politically ambitious general, and the Pentagon’s arrogant Special Operations team, led by Admiral Eric T. Olson, who collaborated with Petraeus. And Congress needs to ask the White House: what did you know, and when did you know it?

Drop what you’re doing and read the whole piece, by Mark Mazzetti, in the Times, which ran it on page 1 as the lead story in today’s paper. (Critics of the “mainstream media” take note: the Times broke this story fearlessly, even though it apparently redacted certain operational details at the behest of the administration.)

Here’s the Cliff’s Notes version: In September, Petraeus signed the Joint Unconventional Warfare Task Force Execute Order providing for a “broad expansion of clandestine military activity” in the region of Centcom’s responsibility, the Middle East and South Asia. Reports Mazzetti:

Africa Central Intelligence Agency David Petraeus Entertainment Eric T. Olson General Islamic Republic of Iran Mark Mazzetti Middle East Pentagon Person Career President The New York Times War White House central Asia commander the Times
“The secret directive, signed in September by Gen. David H. Petraeus, authorizes the sending of American Special Operations troops to both friendly and hostile nations in the Middle East, Central Asia and the Horn of Africa to gather intelligence and build ties with local forces. Officials said the order also permits reconnaissance that could pave the way for possible military strikes in Iran if tensions over its nuclear ambitions escalate. …

“The seven-page directive appears to authorize specific operations in Iran, most likely to gather intelligence about the country’s nuclear program or identify dissident groups that might be useful for a future military offensive.”



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charlesg Donating Member (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 08:59 AM
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1. Is Petraeus still working for Cheney?
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 08:59 AM
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2. Spies in the field?
They've been doing that since the Romans were wandering around.....

:shrug:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:09 AM
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3. I prefer this sort of thing over bombing and/or occupying an entire country. n/t
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:28 AM
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8. +1. nt
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:11 AM
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12. You're correct but it will not stop those with dishonest agendas from trying to distort and spin
it into something sinister.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:17 AM
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13. was that really necessary?
"those with dishonest agendas"

that is not honest discussion
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:22 AM
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15. What is not honest is the attempts of trying to spin routine operations
Edited on Tue May-25-10 10:26 AM by NJmaverick
to protect our nation and its people into something sinister. That is neither honest nor helpful. I grow weary of coming on to the DEMOCRATIC Underground and seeing this happening day in and day out. You would think there would be enough dishonest attacks from the right, that there will be little need to pile on.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 11:31 AM
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17. Wag the dog! No war for Monica!
Yes, that was necessary.

Are you dishonest, or have their spin just worked on you?


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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:18 AM
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4. Sound OK on the surface...
...gathering good intel is something the last administration had no interest in doing.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:22 AM
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5. I don't know. The last time Gates, McChrystal and Petraeus
were given the veil of secrecy, people wound up tortured and killed. What's changed since then?
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:25 AM
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6. Then call for their replacements....
...instead of looking for conspiracies in every order they issue. Not saying there aren't conspiracies, but it's more productive to get some new, better leaders in place.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:26 AM
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7. I didn't look for conspiracies. I pointed out their actual record. n/t
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:32 AM
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10. Agreed, their records suck....
...but the issue here was the new order.

Looking at their records, I call for their replacements.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:29 AM
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9. we demand their replacements!!
that did a lot of good, didn't it?
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:38 AM
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11. Just like the good old days in Nicaragua, El Salvador, Congo, Angola,
Honduras, Chile, Laos, and a whole list of other nations we benignly sought "intelligence" in, subverted, assassinated, tortured, and left graveyards full of people.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 12:32 PM
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20. don't forget Guatemala.
My 6th grader just finished the book "Tree Girl" for a book competition she was in. The story is based on the facts of a Mayan peasant girl who survived the genocide that occurred in Guatemala in the 1980s, aided by American training & weapons. :(
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:20 AM
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14. ...Must have President Obama's approval. nt
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:23 AM
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16. Greg Mitchell can attest to the fact that our General Petraeus ...
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 12:29 PM
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19. Wow I never knew Col Ted Westhusing had pointed a finger at Petraeus b4 his suicide!
Thanks for posting.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 12:25 PM
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18. Can you imagine the US response if Iran did the same here - supported terrorists and sabotage?
What if Iran started planning attacks on US nuclear facilities and scientific personnel? What the f-ck gives us any more moral authority than Osama bin Laden to do the same to them?
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 07:29 PM
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21. American exceptional-ism
or whatever they call it...
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