Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

BP CEO caught on tape ordering media to get away from oil-coated beach

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 08:34 PM
Original message
BP CEO caught on tape ordering media to get away from oil-coated beach
Edited on Tue May-25-10 08:40 PM by jus_the_facts
Walking along a Louisiana beach yesterday, the chief operating officer of British Petroleum was caught on tape ordering subordinates multiple times to "get 'em out of here," apparently referencing media personnel who were swarming the scene prior to a press conference.

The clip has since raised the public's level of ire against the company, at a time when all BP's recent press coverage seems to paint a picture darker than oil.

At first, CEO Tony Hayward appeared to motion toward a cameraman who was standing next to a large puddle of toxic sludge. Pointing at the man, he said sternly: "Hey! Get outta there. Get outta there!"

The cameraman moved. After an inaudible exchange with nearby subordinates, the CEO then gestured toward other reporters and said softly, "Get 'em out. Get 'em out. Get 'em out." He was wearing a wireless mic.

"The last time I checked, we don't live in the United States of BP," Americablog commented. "Again, would someone in the White House like to step up and take control of this situation? This pompous ass thinks he owns the place and quite frankly, he does at the moment."



http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/31MLVL/rawstory.com/rs/2010/0525/bp-ceo-media-oilcoated-beach//r:t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 08:36 PM
Response to Original message
1. I hope the press hounds them like crazy and refuses to back down n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 08:38 PM
Response to Original message
2. Don't you dare TOUCH my oil! nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
burnsei sensei Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 08:40 PM
Response to Original message
3. Not being known never stopped the truth
from being true.
At a time like this, the worst thing BP and its friends can do is hide what is happening, what they're doing, and what they want.
Tony Hayward, you are a fool of the first order.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 08:47 PM
Response to Original message
4. THe stuff is toxic
the reporters were walking in it without boots. He was right to tell them to get out of the damn oil puddle. Fishermen already are reporting getting sick working with booms in the water. The last thing needed is reporters tracking that oil up the beach. I took the four hour hazmat course a few weeks ago. You need to be properly suited up like the workers were to work with the stuff.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 08:52 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. somehow I doubt the BP exec was concerned about the health and welfare of the reporters
Any more than he is concerned about the health and welfare of the fishermen they have working with the booms.

I think his total concern is trying to keep photos of the devastation out of the news
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 08:58 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. Then why was there a gaggle of camera and sound people there?
Edited on Tue May-25-10 08:59 PM by jberryhill
Did they arrive with him, or did he show up to tell them to leave?

Did they then shut down and leave?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
icee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 08:41 PM
Response to Reply #8
57. I think it's impossible to tell. His body language nor his voice
tenor sounded like he was angry. Also, with everyone there, and him having knowledge of what's being said about him, I doubt he would want to sound too commandeering. I think everyone here is upset, including me, and this entire thread is unusual. Still, I think the dude should be tried and sent to jail for an extended vacation. Then he can command the guards for Snickers and Reeses.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:00 PM
Response to Reply #5
9. It is another liablility
his company would have to pay for if a suit was filed if the reporters became ill from the chemicals. I have no idea what his motivation was, but it was the right thing to get them out of the oil. The stuff is toxic.
I just did a four hour hazmat class on it.

From this site
Health Effects of Exposure to Oil and Oil Constituents

Crude oil is a complex mixture containing thousands of different chemicals. Depending on the source, crude oil contains various portions of straight and branched chain paraffins, cycloparaffins, and naphthenic, aromatic, and polyaromatic hydrocarbons. In addition, crude oil contains trace amounts of sulfur containing chemicals such as sulfides, mercaptans, thiophenes, and other more complex sulfur compounds. Although the chemical composition of crude oil varies by source, crude oils and petroleum products share certain toxic characteristics.

snip

Prolonged dermal contact with crude oil and petroleum products can cause skin erythema (reddening), edema, and burning. The skin effects can be exacerbated by subsequent exposure to ultraviolet light from sunlight. This enhanced toxicity is due to the phototoxicity of trace contaminants in the oil, such as the PAHs.

Human epidemiological studies have shown that high-dose, chronic, occupational exposure to mineral oils can cause skin cancer. An increased risk of skin cancer, sinonasal cancer, gastrointestinal cancer, and bladder cancer have been reported in metal workers and other occupations with prolonged contact with mineral oils. These carcinogenic effects may be related to the PAHs in the mineral oils. As discussed above, short-term or long-term exposures to the reported concentrations of PAHs in sediment samples are unlikely to cause a significant
http://www.bt.cdc.gov/disasters/hurricanes/katrina/murphyoil/consultation_120905.asp
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
likesmountains 52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:59 PM
Response to Reply #5
26. Amen...a humanitarian he's not
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 07:45 AM
Response to Reply #4
46. And of course he was in full hazmat suit...
That was not his concern I can assure you.. He didn't order his flunkies out of the area as well and they were not in suits....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
icee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 09:02 PM
Response to Reply #46
60. That's a good point. I just watched the thing again and he was
actually pointing at a cameraman who was lateral to the oil puddle and moving away from it. His anger may have been directed toward the media.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 09:07 AM
Response to Reply #4
48. Then what was the CEO of BP doing there?
Him and his entourage were "tracking oil around", too.

If the beaches need to be quarantined, then local or national authorities should be doing it, NOT corporate bigwigs.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 11:03 AM
Response to Reply #48
51. They were not walking in it
if you watch the video the cameraman almost steps into a large puddle of it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jp11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 08:53 PM
Response to Original message
6. There were at least half a dozen photographers and camera people there I don't know what his intent
was but after he left either that area or the beach his shoes were checked for oil. I'd think he didn't want them stepping in the oil, and bringing it with them as they followed him, and as many of them were trying to photograph him, and were not paying attention to where they were.

It was hardly a coverup where there was one or two journalists and a gaggle of BP 'officials' chasing them away.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 08:57 PM
Response to Original message
7. "He was wearing a wireless mic."

He appears to have a boom mic over his head being held by a sound man.

Did the camera and sound people then leave?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
time_has_come Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:09 PM
Response to Original message
10. "get outta there" Ok, so, what's the context? Of course I'll get accused of defending BP...
...but where were the reporters? Were they getting into the oil, thus making it harder to clean up?

We cannot, if we're intellectually honest, just assume right away that he was just wanting media to stop filming oil. With all the oil around, that seems a bit beyond belief.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:17 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. Hope you have asbestos undies

Not to mention that nobody leaves in response to this "order".

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
time_has_come Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:28 PM
Response to Reply #11
13. I wear no undies. And if the reporters were in a sensitive area, everyone is authorized to give
orders.

It's entirely possible Mr. CEO was just looking to protect his PR. I haven't listened to the tape yet, will admit and will do that now.

But it's also possible that he was thinking about the cleanup, and sounded testy. I can see him being testy. He personally has taken a beating for his lame-ass video updates.

The beach oil can be cleaned up easily of nobody walks in it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:29 PM
Response to Reply #10
14. "intellectuallly honest"
you're asking a lot there, fella!

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
time_has_come Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:34 PM
Response to Reply #14
17. maybe...n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:14 PM
Response to Reply #10
29. They're reporters. It's their job to be in the way.
Your lack of appreciation for journalism and your need to defend BP are curious.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
time_has_come Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:44 PM
Response to Reply #29
32. Oh please. My need to "defend BP"? See posts 18 and 19. Your need...
...to ignore the obvious is curious.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:48 PM
Response to Reply #32
34. I don't jump around, looking for referenced posts.
If you want to say something in response, link it or quote it. I don't chase down refences to "post 18" or any other post.

I have read your posts on this thread, however, and nothing you have said alters my point of view. You don't know the first thing about journalism, you're an apologist for BP, and if you've posted anything remotely progressive, I haven't seen it yet.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
time_has_come Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 11:13 PM
Response to Reply #34
36. What do you do?
do you bother to look at the video that the post is about before adopting a knee-jerk misinformed and incorrect assessment of a situation?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 01:20 AM
Response to Reply #36
42. Testy Much?
The knee-jerking appears to be from you with your misinformed and incorrect assessment of this situation. See ya later dude (as in ignore) you are not worth reading on DU.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
time_has_come Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 08:29 AM
Response to Reply #42
47. yeah, i do get testy when someone makes accusations against me
and when blatantly false assessments fuel outrage and anger, making the board look silly.

Oh please, don't ignore me. Please NO!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
icee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 08:48 PM
Response to Reply #42
58. .
Edited on Wed May-26-10 09:03 PM by icee
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
time_has_come Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 11:17 PM
Response to Reply #34
37. And what is "your point of view," on this topic, specifically.
Are you just upset because you realize your wrong on this?


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kievan Rus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:18 PM
Response to Original message
12. Last I checked, BP doesn't own the beach
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:31 PM
Response to Reply #12
15. Last time I checked, they didn't own the local cops either
but "It's BP's oil." And apparently BP's local martial law.

Why Is BP Controlling Louisiana’s Cops? (Washington Independent 5/25)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x538116

:shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:33 PM
Response to Original message
16. honestly it sounds like he was trying to keep the idiot OUT of the
freaking OIL. I don't see how it can be interpreted any other way. Unless you just WANT to interpret another way.

And yeah, I support charges and fines and jailtime against BP. But this? This is trying to make something out of nothing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
time_has_come Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:43 PM
Response to Reply #16
19. EXACTLY. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
time_has_come Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:42 PM
Response to Original message
18. Ok, watched it. He's telling the cameraman to get out of the cleanup effort. That's obvious to me..
...I can't believe how dumb Rick Sanchez (sp?) was there.

Think about it...he's walking along the beach with about 20 cameras in tow...close to the oil. He stops at a particularily nasty spot where a cleanup effort is happening.
Stops. When does he react? When a cameraman gets close to the oil.

Good god. The guy is a dweeb, there's no denying that. His communications have been Monty Pythonish. And he should have said "get outta there, YOU'RE ALMOST STEPPING IN THE OIL AND THEY'RE TRYING TO CLEAN IT!" But no, he's not smart enough to say that. Still, it's clear that's what sparked him off.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:43 PM
Response to Original message
20. Here's your context: A great show for the cameras. In the meantime, "They're fucking liars."
This video thread is on the GP already a couple times. I'll just post the link from one of them to a little more "context" about BP's "concern."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=468366&mesg_id=468423

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
time_has_come Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:47 PM
Response to Reply #20
22. edit....still, in this case there was no effort to deny reporters access. n/t
Edited on Tue May-25-10 09:50 PM by time_has_come
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
time_has_come Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:46 PM
Response to Original message
21. Unrecced. See post 4, 18, or 19.
With all the heartbreaking truth happening, these non-stories looking to stoke outrage based on foolish interpretations are really disheartening.

We've got enough to be outraged and saddened by without this bullshit. CNN should be absolutely ashamed for that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:49 PM
Response to Original message
23. So, which was it?

Get outta here.

or

Get 'em out of there.

Your post says both of those things. The video tape does not.

Who is being honest?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
time_has_come Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:56 PM
Response to Reply #23
24. the "get 'em out of here" is written by The Raw Story. I think the writer f'd up. Big difference
...between "here" and "there".

But certainly, his initial words to the cameraman was "get outta there...get outta there." And that cameraman was not pointing his camera at the oil.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
time_has_come Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:58 PM
Response to Original message
25. I know journalism. Journalists sometimes think THEY are the story, and it blinds them...
...that CNN dude, who I have lost some respect for over this, should have seen the obvious. But WOW what a story it would be if the CEO was ordering cameramen away from the oil because he didn't want them to see the oil! WOW! Could that have been it?!?! Obviously not, but they made a poor decision to infer that may have been what was happening....ask us IF that MAY have been what was happening, in the context of previous questions about BP transparency, of course.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:13 PM
Response to Reply #25
28. Apparently you don't.
Edited on Tue May-25-10 10:39 PM by TexasObserver
Your lame rationalizations for the BP CEO trying to quell media coverage are ridiculous.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
time_has_come Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:34 PM
Response to Reply #28
31. You're missing the obvious
Don't give up though. And stick to the truth when you see it....journalism creed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:08 PM
Response to Original message
27. That BP's CEO thinks he has the right to control media is part of the problem.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
time_has_come Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:46 PM
Response to Reply #27
33. If I was there and saw a cameraman about to step in oil being cleaned up I'd tell him to get out
Anyone should feel free to tell an idiot like that what to do.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:51 PM
Response to Reply #33
35. Deleted sub-thread
Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:16 PM
Response to Original message
30. Hayward is right to act like he's in charge: he is. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 11:19 PM
Response to Original message
38. Fucker is probably afraid the reporter would drop dead if any of the poison shit he's been spray'n
got on him.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
time_has_come Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 12:59 AM
Response to Reply #38
39. no, the fucker was telling a cameraman to stay away from the oil and the cleanup crew.
this is a NON STORY and example of how moronic CNN can be
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 01:07 AM
Response to Original message
40. why didn't someone grab him by the scruff of the neck and rub his face in the oil?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 01:09 AM
Response to Original message
41. I'll bring the tar and you bring the feathers
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
time_has_come Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 01:37 AM
Response to Original message
43. THIS IS STUPID. THE BP CEO WAS TELLING MEDIA TO GET AWAY FROM THE OIL
WHY diminish LEGITIMATE complaints with false ones????
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 04:42 AM
Response to Reply #43
44. gotta agree with that
It's pretty clear from the video that he wanted the reports not getting in the way of the clean up crew and stomping about in the oil. There's more than plenty of shit BP is hiding and trying to hide but this instance isn't one of them.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 11:12 AM
Response to Reply #43
52. Fuck him... he's tried to excuse away every legit complaint ... FUCK HIM AND HIS *FEIGNED* CONCERN!
:nopity:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 11:28 AM
Response to Reply #43
53. What **false claims** did the OP make? Nowhere have people said
Edited on Wed May-26-10 11:36 AM by chill_wind
they were ordered to leave the actual beach. In fact, the video suggests there was going to be press briefing following, wherever they were being herded to.

People commenting are responding to his demeanor. You are free to assign whatever humanitarian motives you may have in your mind for his performance. Others are free to react with whatever disgust they may feel. All your shouting in all caps and prior name calling (deleted upthread) doesn't change that. Get over yourself.

PS. And fuck him for not practicing and extending his same "concern" in the rest of his fucking criminal enterprise.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
time_has_come Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 09:00 PM
Response to Reply #53
59. The OP quoted and linked The Raw Story, which is feeding off of CNN's false implication
that this is part and parcel of the BP transparency issue.

They haven't been transparent about the flow amount. Trying to keep media from filming the oil? Bullshit. Total bullshit, and a sad distraction in all this horrible mess.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 07:20 AM
Response to Original message
45. K&R
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 09:11 AM
Response to Original message
49. They need to put this guy under house arrest.
He should be allowed to go from his office to his home only. He should not be allowed to do photo ops or give press conferences. And once the well is shut down he should go directly to jail.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 09:13 AM
Response to Original message
50. I'm tempted to drive down to Louisiana next week, camera in hand.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:25 PM
Response to Original message
54. Maybe he's concerned because he knows how toxic it is.
:eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 06:30 PM
Response to Reply #54
55. Yeah I've got his sorry ass "concern" about protecting people (when nobody's looking)
Edited on Wed May-26-10 07:07 PM by chill_wind
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 08:03 PM
Response to Original message
56. oh friggen kick for the sheer arrogance. . . .n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 09:04 PM
Response to Original message
61. It's good practice
for what he's going to need to tell his fellow 'roommates' some day after he's convicted of crimes against the earth.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat May 11th 2024, 01:45 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC