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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:02 PM
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What do we make of the Joe Sestak 'job offer'.
It seems that there is nothing to it. Is that correct?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:03 PM
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1. The what?
Got specific details on this?
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:03 PM
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2. not uncommon nor unethical
pure politics, no biggie even if true
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:05 PM
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3. Doesn't even stop me from yawning
:shrug:
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:05 PM
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4. He didn't take the job and ran for senate instead.
What exactly is the problem?
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:07 PM
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5. Right wing jacka** I ran into at the store
Edited on Tue May-25-10 10:13 PM by Dawson Leery
said that Joe Sestak AND Obama have broken the law.
I was doubtful that any law was broken. So long as Sestak was not coerced, no law was broken.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:09 PM
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6. Except it has been going on in Washington for decades..
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:10 PM
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7. That is what I thought.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:11 PM
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8. Ask him which law that is.
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jp11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:11 PM
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9. Mission accomplished media.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:17 PM
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10. Nothing at all, because Sestak would have had to drop out of the race to take the job
Edited on Tue May-25-10 10:47 PM by rocktivity
no matter what.

There was no bribe (as in "Drop out of the race, and I'll give you a million dollars"). There was no sweetheart deal (as in "Drop out of the race, and I'll give you a do-nothing, no-show job that pays a million dollars"). There was no blackmail (as in "Drop out of the race or I'll publish these embarrassing pictures of you"). There was no quid pro quo (as in "I'll give you a job if you give Specter a job"). The Senator seat wasn't Sestak's to give (at the time), so nothing was exchanged.

By offering Sestak a job that would have taken him out of the race and made it easier for Specter to win, Obama might have benefited POLITICALLY. But he since no one benefited FINANCIALLY, no crime was committed, and no ethical guideline was breached.

:boring:
rocktivity
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:24 PM
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11. It is nothing. Here - from Talking Points Meme:
Even CREW Says Sestak's Claim Of Job Offer Is No Scandal
Zachary Roth | May 25, 2010, 3:28PM

Republicans have been launching a full-court press to trumpet the claim by Rep. Joe Sestak (D-PA) that the White House offered him a job in exchange for dropping out of the Democratic primary race for the U.S. Senate, in an effort to clear the filed for its favored candidate, Sen. Arlen Specter, (D-PA). One GOP lawmaker has called for a criminal probe, alleging possible illegal conduct. But several experts tell TPMmuckraker this is much ado about nothing.

Last month, Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) urged the Justice Department to appoint a special counsel to look into Sestak's claim, which Issa says amounts to an accusation of a bribe. The White House has said that nothing inappropriate happened. And on Friday, reports Politico, DOJ responded by denying the request.

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"People horse trade politically all the time," Stan Brand, a prominent Washington criminal defense lawyer told TPMmuckraker. "So I don't put much stock in this, and I don't think its gonna go anywhere."
Even those who used to prosecute public corruption cases agree. "Talk about criminalizing the political process!" said Peter Zeidenberg, a former federal prosecutor with the Justice Department's Public Integrity unit. "It would be horrible precedent if what really truly is political horsetrading were viewed in the criminal context of: is this a corrupt bribe?"

And Melanie Sloan, a former federal prosecutor who as the head of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington isn't known for going on easy public corruption, concurred. "There is no bribery case here," she said. "No statute has ever been used to prosecute anybody for bribery in circumstances like this."
Sloan added that Issa's move was more about politics. "It's not at all about whether there was actual criminal wrongdoing," she said. "It's about how to go after Sestak."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x312827
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daylan b Donating Member (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:24 PM
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12. Setup an open hearing on it tomorrow, find out nothing wrong happened, move on...
....or be vague, don't give any details, dodge any question on it, give it time to build steam, and let it become a shit storm.

The only reason it's getting legs is people filling in the blanks that Sestak and Emanuel refuse to fill in themselves. Be open, show that they're serious about ethics, and move on.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:27 PM
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13. Who is "we"?
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:28 PM
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14. Nothing. He turned it down. End of story.
He was free to take it or turn it down and do whatever he wanted.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:30 PM
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15. Just seems like pure politics
if he had taken the job he would be wrong and so would they but he didn't. It is wrong to try to set up a primary and take voters choice away. Nothing happened though. It strikes me as deperation on their part especially since for eight years they saw nothing wrong with $ush starting wars for business purposes, outing CIA agents, etc, etc, etc.
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jp11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:32 PM
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16. Actually it is a REALLY BIG DEAL, this is a New Job the administration might have made we need to
know so we can add it to the others.
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