My answer to Issa, Mourning Schmoe, Mika Mouse, and the rest on the Sestak Job Offer

They just HAD TO unrec my thread!

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Any person who honestly thinks Raygun was a "wonderful" President is not playing with a full deck.

K & R :thumbsup:

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The Pukes hypocrisy knows no boundaries. Thanks for the link. :fistbump: :fistbump:

Hypocrisy reared it's ugly head again, and got caught. These Republicans are despicable, and I do not understand Sestak's motivation. I would love to know why he is pushing this story. At this point, I don't see an advantage for him.

Great job finding this article! Send it to Rachel!

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No, after reading the first couple of paragraphs, I skimmed over the rest. That will teach me! Too funny. It just gets better!!


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Political appointments are political in nature, after all.

We should aim to be just like criminal republicans. That will get us a long long way toward where our country needs to be.

Nobody raised an eyebrow when Reagan did it. It didn't even register. In fact, the media reported breathlessly wondering if Hayakawa would take the job.

But put a black man in the white house and, there you go...

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didn't make it right.

is older than the constitution, is not illegal, and has been practiced by every president including Washington.

So I guess you are cool with that too.

That's called bribery. It's illegal, and has been prosecuted numerous times.

and time and time again politicians take that money then vote with the corporations instead of with the people.

And using your stupid logic that is perfectly ok because it's been around forever.

You said lobbyists giving money, now you've changed it to contributions from the people the lobbyists represent.

Basically, you just want to tear down Obama and nothing else. And you'll use any excuse you can find to do it.

You support politicians giving special treatment to big political donors because it's been around forever.

Amirite?

Or is this the part where you stop responding to me because I don't kiss Obama's ass on every single thing?

nothing more.

Using your stupid excuse that this is ok because it's been around forever you then have to accept that giving political favors to big contributors is also ok.

It makes no sense, it's a form of cheerleading.

You had a good point that when the white guy did this nobody seemed to care. But anything past that is total bullshit on your part. Interfering with elections is never ok, even if the guy doing it is on your team (or so he says).

When you go into the WH and promise total transparency, you might be held to a slightly higher standard.

when all you want to do is tear down the sitting President, you twist what was said in a campaign to your own views.

thanks for posting this

In This thread.

did I get it right?

The answer is, "this isn't illegal, never has been illegal, and has been practiced by every president in U.S. history."

you wouldn't just make something like that up.

Right?

Washington appointed Jefferson, a huge political rival, to Secretary of State. Adams appointed Madison, another political rival, to the same post.

We could go on. Every president in history uses this technique. In fact, they wouldn't be political appointments if politics wasn't involved.

Washington appointed Jefferson why? Why did Adams appoint Madison?

What about Carter? Did he do this? How about Kennedy? FDR?

The law being cited is for the permanent jobs in civil service, which used to go to political cronies before Chet Arthur became president.

Political appointments ALWAYS involve politics. That's sort of why they're called "political appointments".

Seems that to be a better response to Issa than "Raygun did it". Who cares if he did - if they are illegal.

Or. . . . could the legality be in question?

"Whoever, directly or indirectly, promises any employment,
position, compensation, contract, appointment, or other benefit,
provided for or made possible in whole or in part by any Act of
Congress, or any special consideration in obtaining any such
benefit, to any person as consideration, favor, or reward for any
political activity or for the support of or opposition to any
candidate or any political party in connection with any general or
special election to any political office, or in connection with any
primary election or political convention or caucus held to select
candidates for any political office, shall be fined under this
title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both."

Says nothing of permanant civil service employment.

http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/18/I/29/600

to agree to not run for office while doing so.

Then he's even guiltier than Obama--Stestak says he was actually OFFERED one!

On edit: And the race in question was one that Reagan's DAUGHTER was in???


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How many times to we have to keep telling ya! :spank:

And I would love to hear Joe Scarborough's reasoning as to why it would be legal for Patron Saint Ronnie Reagan but not for Obama. Also very uncomfortable for Hannity, Limbaugh, et al.

Then there's the possibility that it was illegal then and is still illegal now. The Hayakawa situation seems to clearly be quid pro quo - IF he drops out THEN they find him a position. No one has made that the definitive case with Sestak. If they just made him an offer without a condition, they probably are ok. Come to think of it, someone would have to be completely moronic to say IF you drop out, we make you Ambassador to East Cupcake, because a person could only ACCEPT a position by dropping out in the first place.

the author of the OP claims it is not illegal.

So why is it a good find that Raygun legally promised someone a job?