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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 12:21 AM Original message |
If you can bear it..Renowned Marine Biologist Carl Safina on the BP Oil Disaster |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
1. that is a tough message to read. |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 12:26 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. yes it is - and she's essentially saying those eggs are gonna be destroyed by corexit chemical, and |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 11:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
62. We have to realize that capitalism is suicidal -- and that it is killing all life .... |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
2. yet another voice that should have been sought out from the get go, these people know their stuff, |
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William Z. Foster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 12:37 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. this is the problem |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 02:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
33. but we're not reallyyyy democrats for suggesting that, we're just hellbent on tearing down the |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 11:37 PM Response to Reply #33 |
63. Democrats everywhere are questioning why Obama didn't immediately take this over! |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 01:44 AM Response to Reply #2 |
15. A point I think many of us have tried to bring out... |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. I imagine bringing others in (and especially scientists) |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 08:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
53. UNDERSTAND THIS; almost 1 month ago in Fla news it was reported that many countries throughout the |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 11:34 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. At least one of the reporters got into that question the other day . . . |
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MindandSoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 12:29 AM Response to Original message |
4. So terrible! Men playing "apprentice sorcerers" with nature! |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
5. When can we be angry enough to elicit change? |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 12:32 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. NOW is the time. If not NOW, it will be NEVER. |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 12:32 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Yes. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 12:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
24. We're fighting apathy, burnout, ignorance, and cheerleaders |
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skyounkin (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 05:26 PM Response to Reply #24 |
43. Same fight from the last 8 years of bush... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 11:40 PM Response to Reply #43 |
65. And from what we have already seen of the "change" ...watch out in the future--!! |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 12:42 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. I haven't been able to comment |
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icee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 02:54 PM Response to Reply #7 |
30. It's time to take to the streets with pitchforks and shovels. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 11:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
64. Certainly is the time ... to NATIONALIZE oil industry ... |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 12:31 AM Response to Original message |
6. Yet some do not what this information posted. Sad. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 12:13 PM Response to Reply #6 |
26. It's pretty obvious that DU has a fair number of corporate surrogates acting on BP |
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icee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 02:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Yes. I know one for sure. Everytime you criticise BP, this |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 03:03 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. bingo |
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debunkthelies (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 11:49 PM Response to Reply #34 |
70. DITTO!!! +1000 |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:36 PM Response to Reply #34 |
81. Well said! Very well said! n/t |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 03:43 PM Response to Reply #26 |
36. Don't forget the rabid Obama supporters who think he is above criticism |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:55 PM Response to Reply #36 |
84. all those assholes care about is if his poll numbers have been |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 05:03 PM Response to Reply #26 |
42. Right, the ones who don't believe in perpetual motion machines. |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 09:10 PM Response to Reply #26 |
57. I've wondered about that , Lorien. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 11:42 PM Response to Reply #26 |
66. Agree -- |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 12:33 AM Response to Original message |
9. K&R |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 01:21 AM Response to Original message |
12. k/r |
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Kablooie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 01:25 AM Response to Original message |
13. I'm really feeling sick about all this.We may be in for many scary, desperate decades. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 01:35 AM Response to Original message |
14. I think we have ample evidence BP is invested in hiding as much of the truth as possible |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 07:15 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. why we expected as much |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 11:43 PM Response to Reply #19 |
67. Capitalism and the race for the dollar bill beats out scientists . . . Global Warming--!! |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 01:52 AM Response to Original message |
16. K&R |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 01:58 AM Response to Original message |
17. k&r |
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gimama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 04:05 AM Response to Original message |
18. dispersant contains arsenic.. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
20. We gotta kill Capitalism |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 04:57 PM Response to Reply #20 |
40. No. Capitalism must be |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 05:01 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Yeah, that works so fucking well.... |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 05:45 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. The influence of |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 11:48 PM Response to Reply #45 |
69. Our Founders recognized it and we should -- capitalism is a threat to democracy .... |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 06:37 AM Response to Reply #45 |
75. Then you must take the money from the corporations, all of it. |
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William Z. Foster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:17 PM Response to Reply #45 |
79. well sure |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 12:08 AM Response to Reply #41 |
73. Chernobyl happened quite nicely in a non-capitalist environment. n/t |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 08:23 AM Response to Reply #73 |
76. A singular event |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 11:45 PM Response to Reply #40 |
68. No -- we've already done that -- that was what the New Deal did and they overturned it!! |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 02:16 AM Response to Reply #68 |
74. Capitalism has the upper hand. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:08 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. Well, if Americans wake up ... then it is highly possible . . . HOWEVER . . . |
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William Z. Foster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:21 PM Response to Reply #74 |
80. it cannot be a long time |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:39 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. a system that demands perpetual growth |
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William Z. Foster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:52 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. right |
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William Z. Foster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:12 PM Response to Reply #40 |
78. you are probably thinking of trade and sales |
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tango-tee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 08:10 AM Response to Original message |
21. K&R |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
22. corporatism is sociopathic. |
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William Z. Foster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:55 PM Response to Reply #22 |
85. Capitalism is sociopathic, by definition |
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Bryn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
25. K&R |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
27. Shhh |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
28. Then there is |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
29. K&R, marked for further reading |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
32. k n r |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
35. Time for the truth. The Long Emergency - Plus is here and it is time |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 07:10 PM Response to Reply #35 |
50. With elections every two years, there is always going to be an election coming up. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
37. K & R & Bookmarked to read later when the headache that has intensified ever since I logged in today |
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DirtyDawg (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
38. Talk about wishing... |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
39. Fucking god damn criminal bastards at BP |
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marions ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
44. I'm so glad that people like Carl Safina are being interviewed |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 05:58 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. The guy's on Democracy Now, God Bless Them. OTOFH, Corporate McPravda is under orders to ignore him. |
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marions ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 06:26 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. yes the truth will be denied |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 09:01 PM Response to Reply #47 |
55. It was reported MAY 1st..that it exceeded The Valdez. This is all a load of shit! eom |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 08:33 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. Juan and Amy |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 09:00 PM Response to Reply #46 |
54. and that is not even to mention the air we were blessed with in the Gulf states |
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pengillian101 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
48. K&R |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
49. K&R |
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RoccoR5955 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
51. Capitalism is killing Mother Earth |
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snappyturtle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 09:03 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. I hear and agree. nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 11:52 PM Response to Reply #51 |
72. +1000% -- |
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William Z. Foster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 12:02 AM Response to Reply #51 |
86. amen |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
58. K&R. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
59. Are they still spraying that shit? Someone needs to unite to stop the fucking planes! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 11:51 PM Response to Reply #59 |
71. Think that the EPA couldn't get them to stop using this stuff-- and finally settled on |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
60. "Song for a Blue Ocean" -- terrific book -- !! |
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