I think Joe Biden is more seasoned and ready than Obama

After watching the candidates for the past few months and seeing how they are "maturing," I think Biden would make a better President. At first I liked Obama (I would vote for him of course, if he was the nominee) but I just don't get a solid feeling from him, as I do JB.

I am still undecided for the primaries, but Biden is growing on me.

He had about 6.5 million in his campaign war chest. That doesn't get you much exposure. Either the Corps. don't think he has a chance, throw in the media, OR his politics don't fit into their scheme of things.

created, which in turn will result in more exposure, and on, with contributions flowing in commensurately. It's beginning to happen now. Just look at the increase of people who've dropped by to say or post in GD that Biden's "starting to grown on me".

I keep sending in my paltry contributions with the belief that if growing numbers do the same, those coffers will grow enough to keep him going.

last nite. Let's hope enough people start sending something to his effort! I have used the DU donation site rather than Biden's. Got to give a plug for DU! His contributions are creeping up.

other than the banks in his own state and that is because of his constituency. He's been known to refuse donations from questionable sources. He has a strong moral core.

He is getting noticed gradually, pretty much the way I expected. Then things start to snowball as people tell other people. Also, the frontrunners are so over-exposed and a lot of voters just aren't comfortable with them. In pops Biden and he seems to fill the bill for them.

else said that she'd sleep better at night knowing Biden was in the White House -- I liked that, too!

I wish I could express myself so clearly.

I liked certain aspects of EACH of the candidates -- I had no idea if I could even MAKE a choice. But the more I read and watched and heard, I realized I was being drawn to Biden more and more. And again, as you said, Biden kept growing on me. I feel confident in my choice. It

Thank you for your kind words and for expressing better than how I could, how I feel! Carry on. :)

he just doesn't have the chops yet. I think he and the country would benefit greatly if he got some more experience under his belt. I think he has so much to offer and I'm afraid that if he did become President at this point in his life, he might be in over his head and it would harm his political career for the long-term. It has nothing to do with ability, intelligence, anything other than experience. He just needs to swim with the sharks a little more. Sad, but true.

but as the months have peeled off the calendar, I think there are other well-qualified candidates in the Dem field. I am on a few candidate mailing lists, Biden's is one of them.

In fact, I went to see him last year, made one of my daughters stay home from school to come with me to see the next President.
It was so exciting. But - I got tired of waiting for him to take a stand on anything. I have always supported Biden, never been that impressed by Hillary, so it was easy for me to start looking at Biden.

The more I find out about him, the more impressed I become, the more certain I am that he is the right person for right now.

If I can make a suggestion - read his book - Promises to Keep.
Quick reading and a great insight into who he is.

Glad to have you here!

I waffled for a while on Hillary, while she is smart, I find her recent hawkishness (and support of the LIEberman bill) to be frightening. What's with this 2013 bullshit?? I am concerned about 20 yrs. of a Bush or Clinton. US is not a monarchy. Duh!

Obama has not impressed me with his inability to take a stand, he's too comfortable in the middle. He's not ready for this, I sense a hesitation in him that I saw at the end of Clark's campaign in 2004 (like he was trying to talk himself into the office, I knew his heart wasn't in it, I worked for Clark in 2003-2004)

I can't stand Edwards.

I like Kucinich and many of his platforms, but he doesn't stand a chance in hell.

Gravel? Blip on the radar screen.

Dodd, he's not too bad, but I don't see the fire in him.

So that leaves Richardson and Biden. And Richardson is an awkward person at times, he does not seem Presidential to me.

What's a gal to do then?

I am still undecided, but Biden is looking better than the rest of them at this point.

I have a feeling that there are many less vocal voters who are seeing the lineup similarly. That was a very effective summation.

burner of 'books to read someday'. I've just ordered it -- thanks for the nudge!

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I like Obama. There is indeed something special about him. His major fault IMHO is that he jumped into this at this point in time. Not the right thing to do (unless it helps pull down HRC, in which case I will be grateful), and it shows arrogance. I would have been perfectly happy with somebody like him in the past, say in 92, somebody very smart and with huge potential. But things are so messed up now, and on so many levels, that I want experience and proven ability, not just potential. And no, grassroots activism, admirable as it is, does not qualify as experience. Nor does being married to a president, nor a full term in the Senate and running as VP. Sometimes I think people are just insane!

about Obama. he Is a masterful Orator. exquisite on his delivery, and has the ability to portray to the listener, the feeling of heartfelt Love of America. I am a mean old bastard. I am not an angry man but like most men I am not very emotional. The speech he gave at the dem convention (1994)... had me in tears, ready to enlist even Hug my asshole neighbor. His candidacy is the result of that speech. he is too green. if he did some trench work on the senate floor. roused that grey old body like he roused me. say two more terms as senator... he would have me in his column.

His inexperience is becoming so obvious lately and he doesn't emanate enough confidence to be president at this time. We need someone who really has experience and a real record. Obama and Edwards don't have enough of a track record and the next president is going to need more than oratory skills to fix the mess we're in.

Also we really, really need someone who can work with congress to get legislation through. I don't think Obama and Edwards can do that, and Hillary might be better, but not as good as Biden. Biden proved his ability to pull people across the aisle this week.

I have just started following him, how is he looking in Iowa?

from state legislators. So looking great from that perspective. And I think he's working it still -- most of his focus at this time is Iowa.

Also, he's set up a dedicated New Hampshire website which to me (glass full) indicates he feels he can make strong showing in iowa, and that there will be life after Iowa.

And we're ALL pissed off about his not getting more traction. We're befuddled.

You are so perceptive! Love it!

of the other candidates in that position, I don't think any one of them can do it as well as Joe.

I think, already, they view him as "one of us" -- he has that amazing ability to connect with Every Man. To me, his approach seems to be person to person, friend to friend. I think the others would come off as more "me telling you the way it should be".

has a ring to it.

sure he'd be my choice for Biden -- I'm not really sure who I think would be the best fit yet, but I'm working on it.

And I've heard the Biden/Obama possibility mentioned frequently.

As in the past, I'm sure the candidate will bring a running mate who can bring in votes. No doubt about Obama being able to do that.

biden has more experience then most of the canidates do COMBINED:)
out,
tucci42

Once you start listening to Biden and what he has to say, you realize that the guy actually is pretty down to earth and quite logical. And best of all- he tells it like it is. No bs from Joe! I want a President number one that I can trust and number two knows what's best for our country. Biden is one of us. From the middle class. Not rich. Not spoiled. Most of all his experience makes everyone else pale in comparison. No one can compete w/ Biden's lengthy resume of accomplishments.

It appears that in the 30 years he has been in Congress his goal has simply been to make things happen for the people. OK, he has had presidential aspirations. He thinks he can make a difference. He didn't get rich in the process. Has a really neat family. To me, how your family relates to you shows if you have character.

and what he has accomplished. The tragedy of losing his first wife and daughter only made him stronger. Somehow I feel more of a personal connection w/ Biden then any other candidate. I think also because my mom had brain aneurysm surgery like Biden did (twice for him) this has become more personal to me then ever. Ironically I was supprting Biden last year- before my mom's surgery and before I knew about his.

personal connection, too. Maybe it's because of the Irish Catholic-ness about him. Hard to explain, but I can feel it.

Obama inspires me and makes me feel so hopeful. It's almost as if America would start with a clean slate. I listen to him speak and find myself actually tearing up and wanting to shout "YES! THIS is what America should be!"
He has this beautiful, and inspiring vision of a united America, a strong America, a peaceful and proud America, and I want that... God help me I want that. I love that Obama inspires and draws out the patriot in me. Obama makes me feel proud to be an American again.Then I sit back and consider the damage of the Bush administration it makes me want to weep. This nation is bleeding, literally and figuratively. We can't leap into Obama's beautiful vision of this nation if we can't first walk, and I believe that Joe Biden is the man that can get us on our feet again. He has a workable and realistic plan, kind of "therapy" for America.
Joe Biden is NOT a visionary, but he is a confident, capable and experienced leader. After Bush, we can't afford a visionary. First we need someone with the ability to lead us while we try to undo some of the damage of the current administration. We don't need pretty dreams...we need realistic, and actionable steps that can help fix healthcare, social security, education, Iraq, the economy and Biden offers that.
Biden already has the political credentials and credibility to not only work both sides of the aisle in Washington, but also to regain world trust of America. Could Obama do this? Absolutely... but it would take time that frankly, we just don't have.
I love Obama, but he just isn't ready...or maybe it's that we aren't ready...but we could be with Joe Biden as our leader.
I hope you'll take a closer look at Joe. I believe he will be the one to prepare this country for greatness once again.