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livvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 06:41 PM
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I don't think I'd better spend much time in GDP tonight.
I'm going through the very pissed off stage of bereavement right now. Passed through the shock, spent some time wallowing in self-pity today, and have moved solidly into the anger phase. Can't remember which phase is next. If anyone can help me out here, I'd appreciate it. I'd like to know what is coming next.

"Shove it", indeed. :rofl: Good one...:hug:
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 06:44 PM
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1. Yeah, I feel like an Alien out there right now
It all seems so strange and I cannot assimilate it yet.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 06:53 PM
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2. The 5 stages of grief
The five stages of grief are:


1-Denial-"this can't be happening to me", looking for the former spouse in familia places, or if it is death, setting the table for the person or acting as if they are still in living there. No crying. Not accepting or even acknowledging the loss.


2-Anger-"why me?", feelings of wanting to fight back or get even with spouse of divorce, for death, anger at the deceased, blaming them for leaving.


3-Bargaining-bargaining often takes place before the loss. Attempting to make deals with the spouse who is leaving, or attempting to make deals with God to stop or change the loss. Begging, wishing, praying for them to come back.


4-Depression-overwhelming feelings of hopelessness, frustration, bitterness, self pity, mourning loss of person as well as the hopes, dreams and plans for the future. Feeling lack of control, feeling numb. Perhaps feeling suicidal.


5-Acceptance-there is a difference between resignation and acceptance. You have to accept the loss, not just try to bear it quietly. Realization that it takes two to make or break a marriage. Realization that the person is gone (in death) that it is not their fault, they didn't leave you on purpose. (even in cases of suicide, often the deceased person, was not in their right frame of mind) Finding the good that can come out of the pain of loss, finding comfort and healing. Our goals turn toward personal growth. Stay with fond memories of person.
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I went from #1 to #4 (w/o the suicide part)
Haven't gotten mad yet - but I know myself...and that will come!
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livvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 06:59 PM
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3. Hmmm...guess I skipped 3, and went from 4 back to 2.
Actually, I'm kind of comfortable here. It's not a place I visit very often. Feels kind of good. :evilgrin:
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:03 PM
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4. Come to think of it, I did stop at #3 for awhile.
I woke up asking why didn't he wait until NH to drop out? I was trying to make the case why Biden should have waited.

Nah - NH would have been awful for him. Better he got out now.

Ok - back to #4.

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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:35 PM
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5. I'm on #4....
and the gap between there and 5 will probably be very wide....
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:44 PM
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9. Anger is a way of taking control -- feeling as though we have power after
something occurs that we feel has happened TO us. It's a good step after that helpless feeling.
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demommom Donating Member (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 01:36 PM
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14. What does it mean when you feel all of this at once??
Edited on Sat Jan-05-08 01:36 PM by demommom
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 01:45 PM
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17. I don't know but that's how I've been feeling
I haven't noticed any "stages", just one big glob of mixed emotions.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 09:29 PM
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6. Lot of idiots out there tonight
I'm afraid I won't be modelling good Christian behavior if I continue to bite off heads. :-)
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:04 PM
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7. They are out in full force tonite, aren't they.
Let them eat each other up alive.
They don't get it, and they better watch it too.
I get the feeling that the msm is trying to take Edwards out of this race. Their candidate is not extinct from this.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 12:59 PM
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13. Exactly
How quickly we forget what happened to Gore in 2000 as well.
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:11 PM
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8. Denial can resurface at any time, and the whole cycle starts over
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:47 PM
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10. you and me both
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 10:50 PM by frogcycle
I told someone to bite me and called them a body part - well an orifice - and got deleted

I actually am pretty calm about the way it turned out. It was a long shot, I got wrapped up in it and got my hopes up, but just as I said I would not be elated if he did well, I am not suicidal that it didn't work out the way I hoped. I am, however, less tolerant of drivel and bs than I used to be, which was not very at best. So I have, shall we say, been short with a few people. Mostly the ones who continue to snipe back and forth among the top three over the stupidest drivel. I swear most of those clowns are 12 years old. How they tear themselves away from following Britney's antics long enough to post on DU is beyond me.

Maybe I need to change my sig from aka tadpole to aka grouchyoldfart. The shoulder has healed enough that I actually am a quadruped again.

edit: whoops! Just noticed I already removed "aka tadpole"

OK, so it should be aka grouchysenileoldfart
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:28 AM
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11. I thought your avatar was an eye
Edited on Sat Jan-05-08 11:29 AM by 48percenter
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Boy am I stoopid!

Initially I was OK with Joe exiting, but today too -- I am feeling sad that he dropped out before giving NH a chance.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:42 AM
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12. This is my first time on the board since the caucus.
I didn't even venture over to GD-GD/P or Latest or Greatest. I know I won't be able to stand the gloating of the Obama camp & the sniping that it will generate.

I have absolutely no interest in politics now. None. I will vote for whoever the dem candidate is, but is will not be with enthusiasm & I will not be supporting them with my time or money.

If dems are so stupid they think that one of the top three is going to fix the plethora of problems this country faces then they deserve what they get. We don't, but they do. I honestly believe that if by some lucky chance a dem wins the GE, it will be a 4 year term & then we will be back to 8-12 years of repuke rule.

I am this close to believing that our country is toast. Joe was my only hope. :cry:

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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 01:43 PM
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15. Actually there were some very touching and supportive Biden threads posted
on Thursday - They were really nice to see.

I haven't clicked on any of the Obama/Hillary/Edwards threads in a LONG time, and there's no reason for me to begin now.

I really thought Joe was the best hope, too, so at this point I'll just vote for the Dem candidate.

I've found DU to be invaluable for news and info that I don't get elsewhere -- I'll continue to use it as a resource. There's just no need for me to become involved in any of the candidate threads - at least with the way I'm feeling now.

I've said it before -- regardless of who gets into the WH, there will be a knot of fear in my gut because for different reasons, I think each of the remaining three may really fuck things up.


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demommom Donating Member (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 01:43 PM
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16. I am riding that same bus with you.
Edited on Sat Jan-05-08 01:45 PM by demommom
As I said before I'm not all that proud right now of being a democrat.
I'm thinking of changing my registration to Independent and joining
UNITY 08. I can't shake the feeling of how stupid and unfair the caucus system is,now that I have actually seen how the numbers are dealt with.
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