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magbana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:59 PM
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REBELION: INTERPOL REPORT confirms computers WERE manipulated! And the press is manipulating us.
EXCELLENT! EXCELLENT ARTICLE !

"FARC" computers go back to the future!
May 16, 2008 · No Comments

Look what Interpol found on the "FARC" computers!

* 2,110 files with creation dates ranging between 20 April 2009 to 27 August 2009
* 1,434 files which show as having been last modified between 5 April 2009 and 16 October 2010

Wait! Computer dates aren't set in stone by the immutable Atomic Clock in Denver? But that would mean…

Interpol's Report Confirms that the Supposed FARC Computers Were Manipulated

(The parts of the report they've not wanted to emphasize)

Carlos Martínez/Pascual Serrano - Rebelión

Translation: Machetera

Last March 1, the Colombian Army attacked a FARC camp in Ecuadoran territory. The army supposedly captured three laptops, three flash drives and two external hard disks. And it must be said "supposedly" because said evidence was not obtained under established police or judicial procedures, but rather through military aggression in a foreign country, making any evidence obtained thereby illegal and unusable in any judicial procedure.

FULL ARTICLE:

http://machetera.wordpress.com/2008/05/16/farc-computers-go-back-to-the-future/#more-234

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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 10:54 PM
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1. Uh-oh: Chavez must be sharing time-travel technology with FARC
:scared:
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Andrushka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 06:08 PM
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4. OMG!
In addition to all the nukes, the gazillions of dollars, AND the info on the whereabouts of Elvis?!

:wow:
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magbana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 08:32 AM
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2. Additional analysis of those "pristine" computers and a letter to th Financial Times
The following are posts made to Walter Lippmann's Cuba News list by Matt Dubuque


Interpol states Colombian Police did NOT adhere to international sta
Posted by: "Matthew Dubuque" mdubuque@yahoo.com mdubuque
Fri May 16, 2008 7:15 pm (PDT)

Interpol's report can be referenced at:

http://tinyurl.com/58ags5

Finding 2b of Interpol's Report on FARC Computers states that after
seizure of the computers and hard drives by the Colombian government
internationally recognized principles for handling electronic
evidence by law enforcement were NOT followed.

This finding is boldfaced at the top of page 30 of the report. It
states that because of this mishandling by the Colombian government,
thousands of systems files were deleted, created and modified.

Why was this done?

Much of this report remains classified, according to footnote 19 of
the report. A compelling case can be made that the classified
portions of the report should be released.

Matt Dubuque


Interpol Never Said Captured FARC Documents Were Genuine
Posted by: "Matthew Dubuque" mdubuque@yahoo.com mdubuque
Sat May 17, 2008 1:29 am (PDT)

Attached is a letter I wrote to the Financial Times of London about
the pristine Colombian laptops.

Matt

Dear Sir:

I must take exception to your article entitled "Interpol Says
Captured FARC Documents are Genuine" that appeared on May 16.

Interpol's report is available at:

http://tinyurl.com/58ags5

Throughout their report they state that they draw no conclusions as
the authenticity of the material examined nor to whether the
documents were forged or authentic. They only stated that no user
files had been altered after March 1, 2008.

Additionally, the report raises several questions. On page 30 of the
report they note that thousands of systems files had been created,
modified and deleted after March 1st. It is not presently known who
altered thousands of these systems files after they came into
Colombian custody on March 1. Nor do we know why thousands of these
systems files were altered and deleted.

Interpol does recommend later in their report that police forces
around the world should be better educated on correct protocols for
proper handling in the chain of custody for future investigations of
this nature. What made that recommendation somehow appropriate here?

Additionally, page 43 of the report shows several photographs of the
laptops and hard drives in question. All of them are in pristine
condition, an apparent contradiction to months in the jungle and
surviving a bombing raid so lethal as to kill numerous FARC
commanders and numerous nearby civilians. It is only logical to
assume that local fires were caused by this attack.

One assumes that if these laptops and hard drives contained such a
treasure trove of information Mr. Reyes and other key FARC operatives
would have kept them very close at hand. How they managed to survive
such an attack in pristine condition deserves an explanation.

Matt Dubuque
San Francisco, CA


The Case of the Pristine Colombian Laptops
Posted by: "Matthew Dubuque" mdubuque@yahoo.com mdubuque
Sat May 17, 2008 1:31 am (PDT)

I recommend that everyone read the actual Interpol report. We need to
have knowledgeable people review it carefully rather than making
extensive comments without reading more than second hand accounts.

This is a pretext for war and it needs to be carefully rebutted.

The Interpol report is at:

http://tinyurl.com/58ags5

Page 43 of this report shows fotos of the alleged "recovered" laptops
and hard drives. They are all in immaculate and pristine condition,
shiny and new, which contradicts the assertion they had been used so
long as to acquire nearly 700 gigs of information.

Examine the fotos for yourself in Appendix one to the report.

Additionally, these computers and drives look so shiny and new that it
is extremely difficult to conclude they had been in the sweltering
equatorial jungles of Ecuador for very long.

Additionally an extreme amount of lethality was used in this attack
that used thousands of pounds of high explosives.

There is no trace of smoke damage, fire damage or burning from this
armed attack which caused a large fire and killed several civilians
as "collateral damage".

Why are these computers in such pristine condition after such a massive
attack and likely firebombing?

If these computers contained information as sensitive as was alleged,
it is most likely they would have been very close to key commanders.
Surely then not all of them would have survived in such perfect
condition, especially exposed thumbdrives.

Matt
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:11 AM
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5. any MSM unbiased links to this story ? op eds are taken w/ a grain of salt imo. nt
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:16 AM
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6. You should know since you posted on a thread which discussed the same information.
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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 07:26 PM
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8. my guess is that Colombia wanted to see what was in them
and had their own intelligence experts look at them, like any country would do.

and I would also point out that Colombia was not obligated to even have INTERPOL look at them.

I am looking forward to more documents and information released concerning Chavez and his friends in the FARC.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 05:34 PM
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3. Great comments. It's so odd these points weren't noticed by more people, isn't it?
The way the corporate media ran with the bogus story should be all anyone needs to see who may still harbor doubts there is collusion among these people to advance the right-wing agenda at ALL costs.

I'm going to save your post for future reference. Very well written comments touched the only significant points, the ones which should have been acknowledged IMMEDIATELY by the right-wing controlled media, regardless of their ownership, just for the sake of credibility. Thanks, magbana.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 07:18 PM
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7. The FARC-EP Files, Venezuela and Interpol
The FARC-EP Files, Venezuela and Interpol
Posted: 2008/05/19

by Stephen Lendman

First some background. On March 1, the Colombian military (with US Special Forces help) illegally attacked a FARC-EP rebel camp inside Ecuador. US satellite telephone tracking located the site. Washington signed off on the mission. Over 20 people were killed, including 16 or more FARC-EP members while they slept. Key among them was Paul Reyes, the FARC-EP's second-in-command, key peace negotiator and public voice, and lead figure in the Chavez-led hostage negotiations with Colombia.

The action was a clear act of aggression and premeditated murder. It's not how the dominant media played it. Hostile verbal exchanges took place between Hugo Chavez and Ecuador's Raphael Correa on the one hand and Colombia's Alvaro Uribe and George Bush on the other. US presidential candidates, as expected, supported the White House and Bogota.

Tensions heightened further when Colombia's vice-president, Francisco Santos Calderon, revealed his nation's army recovered three laptops and other material at the FARC-EP camp with provocative evidence on their hard drives. He claimed it showed Chavez and Correa have links to the FARC-EP, and Venezuela provided weapons, munitions, and $300 million or so to the rebel group. In addition, the FARC-EP was accused of acquiring 50 kilograms (110 pounds) of uranium, that it wishes to sell it for a radioactive dirty bomb, it also sold 700 kilograms of cocaine for about $1.5 million, and more.

The story is preposterous, but the media grabbed hold of it. No evidence exists, so they invent it. In March, Colombian authorities asked Interpol to examine the computer files for authenticity. The organization released its report on May 15. On its web site, it states that Secretary General Ronald Noble "advised senior Colombian law enforcement officials that INTERPOL's team of forensic experts discovered 'no evidence of modification, alteration, addition or deletion' in the user files of any of the three laptop computers, three USB thumb drives and two external hard disks seized during a Colombian anti-narcotics and anti-terrorist operation on a FARC camp on 1 March 2008."

But Interpol admitted that lacking evidence doesn't prove "there was no tampering." In fact, some files had future date stamps and other indications of data alteration. It questions their authenticity, and Interpol (deep in its report) acknowledged that Columbia likely manipulated the contents - with an explanation needing close reading to understand. It delegitimizes Colombian claims and would get an international court to dismiss them out of hand. Reporters doing their job should as well. Data accuracy can't be verified or worse - they may be entirely fraudulent, and made-in-Washington mischief may be behind it.

More:
http://www.mathaba.net/rss/?x=592624
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