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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 03:08 PM
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Survey: TARP driving 8.5 percent profit
http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/banking-financial-institutions/90643-survey-tarp-driving-85-percent-profit


Survey: TARP driving 8.5 percent profit
By Silla Brush - 04/05/10 01:57 PM ET


The Treasury Department is booking an 8.5 percent profit on investments in bailed out banks, according to a new survey.

American Express and Goldman Sachs ranked among the top five most profitable investments for taxpayers, according to SNL Financial, a market research firm that released the survey.

The survey looked at 49 companies that have repaid money and fully exited the $700 billion financial bailout Congress passed in 2008 in the thick of the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression.

The Treasury Department said Friday the government had been repaid $181 billion from the program, and predicted that the bailout would be a net profit to taxpayers. The profits stem from early repayments, stock sales, dividends and warrants issued under the bailout.


Here are the five most profitable returns, according to SNL:

1. Centra Financial Holdings - 26.2 percent

2. First ULB Corp - 26 percent

3. American Express - 23.3 percent

4. Goldman Sachs - 20 percent

5. First Manitowoc Bancorp - 19.5 percent
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 03:36 PM
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1. It feels nice to be vindicated.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 03:41 PM
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2. Where did the money come from?
Tell the truth.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 03:43 PM
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3. until the recover or writeoff ALL the loans, this is meaningless.
of course the profitable loans pay off first and the troubled ones take their time.
without a clear picture of the likelihood of the remaining loans paying off successfully, this sort of numbermongering is pointless and misleading.

now, given the fed's apparent determination to see this through successfully, it's entirely possible that they ALL will pay off and that the fed will make sure of it.

but in the meanwhile, this is a pointless exercise.


i've seen MANY terrible high-yield portfolios that could easily be made to look wonderful if you ignore the ones that haven't paid off yet.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 03:43 PM
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4. So, eh, what happened to the troubled assets?
Edited on Mon Apr-05-10 03:45 PM by Oregone
:hide:
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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:04 PM
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6. Fannie, Freddie, and the FED own them now
how much have we made off our "investment" in FNM and FRE... Oh yeah... nobody wants to talk about that.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:39 PM
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7. They received therapy. They're no longer troubled.
:rofl:

kidding
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 06:24 PM
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8. !!!
:rofl:
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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:04 PM
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5. Again TARP was a DIVERSION
and DUers are falling for it. The real bailout is through AIG, Fannie Mae, Freddie MAC, and the FED buying MBS at face value. Those losses will be in the hundreds of billions, if not trillions.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 06:40 PM
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9. Kick. NT
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