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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 06:42 PM
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News Hour let Greenspan's lie that Frannie and Freddie caused the financial crisis go unchallenged
Edited on Wed Apr-07-10 06:43 PM by flpoljunkie
Surely PBS' News Hour know better! Former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan repeats the standard Republican lie. The chart below does not lie.
Posted on Sun, Oct. 12, 2008

Private sector loans, not Fannie or Freddie, triggered crisis

David Goldstein and Kevin G. Hall | McClatchy Newspapers

last updated: February 19, 2010 02:01:13 PM

WASHINGTON — As the economy worsens and Election Day approaches, a conservative campaign that blames the global financial crisis on a government push to make housing more affordable to lower-class Americans has taken off on talk radio and e-mail.

Commentators say that's what triggered the stock market meltdown and the freeze on credit. They've specifically targeted the mortgage finance giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which the federal government seized on Sept. 6, contending that lending to poor and minority Americans caused Fannie's and Freddie's financial problems.

Federal housing data reveal that the charges aren't true, and that the private sector, not the government or government-backed companies, was behind the soaring subprime lending at the core of the crisis.

Subprime lending offered high-cost loans to the weakest borrowers during the housing boom that lasted from 2001 to 2007. Subprime lending was at its height from 2004 to 2006.

Federal Reserve Board data show that:

More than 84 percent of the subprime mortgages in 2006 were issued by private lending institutions. Private firms made nearly 83 percent of the subprime loans to low- and moderate-income borrowers that year. Only one of the top 25 subprime lenders in 2006 was directly subject to the housing law that's being lambasted by conservative critics.



Read more: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2008/10/12/53802/private-sector-loans-not-fannie.html
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 07:41 AM
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1. The McClathy article is really good
Greenspan, on the other hand, is dishonest - because he was a bigger factor than Fannie and Freddie put together. It was his strong advice that led to President Clinton and the Congress approving both the repeal of Glass/Stegal and the passing of the commodity futures modernization act (that ruled that credit swaps and derivatives should not be regulated.) Other than Phil Gramm, who wrote both of these, it is hard to think of anyone more to blame.

The attempt to blame Fannie and Freddie and the Community Reinvestment Act. This is to create the story that the seeds of the financial mess in September 2008 were planted by the Democrats when Bill Clinton was President. Like the FMs, the CRA was not the problem - http://www.johnkerry.com/blog/entry/community_reinvestment_act_loans_were_good_investments/

This is an argument the Democrats need to win. The hard part is the Republican lie is simple and the truth is complicated. Their simple lie is that CRA and the FMs allowed people, who could not afford it to get mortgages and predictably they failed. The fact is that even if that were true, if the banks had the big banks not been allowed by Christopher Cox to set leverage as high as 40:1 and if the mortgages had not been turned into (unregulated) derivatives - that the world gambled with, the impact would have been small.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 10:56 AM
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2. I Have Been Railing Against Greenspan Since DU Began
First, he convinced Clinton and the Dems to balance the budget in 1993, which lead many Dems to vote for a tax increase and resulted in them losing the congress in 1994.

Second, after the government was finally in balance and started churning out surpluses, he kills any sort of fiscal discipline by advocating for Bush's tax cuts in 2001. He knew that we would be put back on the path of budget deficits which would make any new social program spending politically unpopular. (See the current HCR debate as an example).

Finally, in order to make it look like the Bush tax cuts were working, he set interest rates at an artificially low level and kept them there for three years, thus setting off the credit bubble.

Greenspan, more than any one single person, is the primary reason for our current economic collapsed state.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 11:00 AM
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3. I agree with everything you said
It is amazing that he was treated by almost everyone as a genius in the 1990s. (I also thing his wife should have to note that they are married before interviewing anyone on anything economics related.

His pushing the tax cuts made it clear that his motive was more stopping spending on social programs than it was on fiscal conservatism.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 12:39 PM
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4. Conservatives Love Deficits
Because deficits provide their best, and only, counter argument against expansion of social spending on things such as education and healthcare. Without massive deficits and a growing debt, there's no logical argument against single payer. None.

This is why the entire establishment, including Greenspan, cheated for Bush in 2000. Gore wanted to use the growing surpluses to shore up social security, which would lay the ground work for a new era of increased domestic spending.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 04:51 PM
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7. they gave him credit for clinton's fiscal responsibility.
the fed's chairman's job is not very difficult when the economy is strong and government spending is very much under control.

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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 04:48 PM
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6. nice summary of his career.
throw in some testimony on the virtues of non-regulation and unrestricted mergers and you've got the schmuck in a nutshell.
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 04:45 PM
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5. Make sure you call The News Hour out for their failure.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 04:53 PM
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8. the other banks defrauded fannie and freddie
you can argue that fannie and freddie knew what was going on, in which case you can't clear them entirely, but the originating banks certainly KNEW they were committing fraud.

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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 04:55 PM
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9. A dishonest right wing talking point repeated without analysis on the American media?
What a surprise!

But hey, you can't do a thing about it because "that would be against free speech."

Having been gone for quite awhile now, this bit has gotten to be almost comical. For all the pride & pomp with which Americans go about citing their Constitution- and how great it is, when it boils down to even the most basic understand of its principles, the vast majority are legally illiterate.

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babyblonde Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 06:09 PM
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10. DONT GIVE TO PBS
period:+ and tell them why
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 07:22 PM
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11. That's nonsensical
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 12:04 AM
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12. They dumped a bunch on F&F before they went down.
Even with that transfer Freddie and Fannie did not look the worst, BUT,


BUT, BUT, BUT,


the worst is yet to come. Subprime is only the tip of the iceberg. The rest has not yet hit.
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