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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 07:13 PM
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Obama orders hospital visit rights for gays, lesbians
Edited on Thu Apr-15-10 07:14 PM by NYC Liberal
CNN:

President Barack Obama has told the Department of Health and Human Services to establish a rule that would not allow hospitals to deny visitation privileges to gay and lesbian partners.
Official memo:
There are few moments in our lives that call for greater compassion and companionship than when a loved one is admitted to the hospital. In these hours of need and moments of pain and anxiety, all of us would hope to have a hand to hold, a shoulder on which to lean -- a loved one to be there for us, as we would be there for them.

Yet every day, all across America, patients are denied the kindnesses and caring of a loved one at their sides -- whether in a sudden medical emergency or a rolonged hospital stay. Often, a widow or widower with no children is denied the support and comfort of a good friend. Members of religious orders are sometimes unable to choose someone other than an immediate family member to visit them and make medical decisions on their behalf. Also uniquely affected are gay and lesbian Americans who are often barred from the bedsides of the partners with whom they may have spent decades of their lives -- unable to be there for the person they love, and unable to act as a legal surrogate if their partner is incapacitated.


Read more: http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/04/15/obama-seeks-hospital-visit-rights-for-gays-lesbians/?hpt=T1
Official Memo: http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/presidential-memorandum-hospital-visitation
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 07:16 PM
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1. Excellent!
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 07:17 PM
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2. For all hospitals?
Everywhere??

Will it also make sure that partners will not be denied by the loved one's hateful family members from seeing their SO? I know personally that this happens a LOT--while the SO is not coherent, the hateful family members devise ways to screw over the partner over and over again.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 07:19 PM
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3. Well here's what the memo says:
Initiate appropriate rulemaking, pursuant to your authority under 42 U.S.C. 1395x and other relevant provisions of law, to ensure that hospitals that participate in Medicare or Medicaid respect the rights of patients to designate visitors.

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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 07:28 PM
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4. Thank you, Mr President. Well done. n/t
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cutlassmama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 07:29 PM
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5. Well what about those HIPPA laws? In the past a "partner" has been
denied access to the patient because of HIPPA laws. How will this circumvent that?
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 12:04 PM
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42. That's always been a misuse of the HIPAA laws
There is nothing in the law preventing patients from seeing any visitors they want to see.
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felinetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 07:35 PM
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6. Boy, he never stops working! Bless him.
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 07:42 PM
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7. k&r
:applause:
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 07:47 PM
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8. great news. nt
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 07:53 PM
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9. He didn't single out gays. He simply wants patients to be able to designate their visitors.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 09:04 PM
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16. Why should he single out gays? Many people who are not gay have the same problems.
Yes, it's prolific in the gay community but if a family has a problem with a partner (be it male and it's their daughter or something) they will deny them this right.

This works for both sets of people and doesn't deny gays. I don't see how this is not good for the LGBT community. Because that's what your tone is implying because it didn't specifically state their sexual status.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 09:30 PM
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20. Why should the OP single them out then?
:shrug:
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 02:32 AM
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31. Because CNN did.
Edited on Fri Apr-16-10 02:34 AM by vaberella
And CNN is feeding the public who hate any of the changes. Even though this helps many be them part of the LGBT or Heteros, they are using in essence the LGBT community. Not only that it's extremely important in the LGBT community because it's a prolific occurrence. But this is mainly a tactic I see and this helps many.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 05:44 AM
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35. Apparently Obama did single out the LGBT community...
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 05:43 AM
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34. Well it would seem he did single them out...
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 08:24 PM
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10. I know Obama is not progressive
enough for a lot of people, but this is really excellent - and a move in the right (left) direction.
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Dr Morbius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 08:25 PM
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11. Better late than never, Mr. President.
Keep 'em coming; more work to do.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 08:29 PM
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12. K&R for another Bush-like move!
Oh, wait...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 08:36 PM
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13. Thank you, President Obama..
Love the Action we're getting.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 08:50 PM
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14. recommend
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 08:59 PM
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15. Wonderful news. K & R.
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 09:05 PM
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17. Great news! K & R
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 09:05 PM
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18. Well this is great news. It works for everyone but I'm still waiting on DOMA & DADT repealed. n/t
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 09:27 PM
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19. A big league step in the right direction.
I love this President!
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 09:30 PM
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21. K&R
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 09:41 PM
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22. I'm glad he's using his executive powers to do this unilaterally
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 09:56 AM
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41. He's Not.
This is just a memorandum...little more than a suggestion. It is not an executive order, and it does not grant any additional rights, nor establish any penalities for failing to follow the "rule".

It's window dressing.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 05:38 PM
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45. Hospitals that refuse to comply will not get money from Medicare or Medicaid
To quote the Vice President, it's a big fucking deal.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 09:47 PM
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23. I never understand why hospitals have such strict visitation policies anyway
as though anybody wanting to visit a sick friend, relative, lover, etc. in the hospital would be coming there to harm them.
:eyes: What prompted all these restrictions anyway?
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 02:22 AM
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54. First, sick people need their rest. Second, some people try to take advantage of the sick while...
... they are in a weakened state -- such as getting them to sign wills or agree to other things they normally would not agree to. As such, it's a good idea to limit visitors under certain circumstances.

It's only when implemented by bigots that it becomes toxic. Any person should be able to designate who they want to be by their side -- and a durable power of attorney for medical purposes should certainly be a major clue that person A wants person B to be with them.

Hekate
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Smashcut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 09:48 PM
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24. K/R
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Born_A_Truman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 09:54 PM
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26. K&R!
:thumbsup:
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 09:51 PM
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25. Are we out from under the bus now?
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PolNewf Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 10:07 PM
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27. @edhenrycnn: Obama memorandum also gives same-sex partners medical power of attorney -- big move
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 08:57 AM
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38. That is not correct.
We can already have that, and we still must have such papers in advance of the need in case one partner is not able to communicate. This 'gives' nothing to anyone that does not already exist. No one should assume they have a new right because of reading threads. The last paragraph of the memorandum:

"This memorandum is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person."

It is just very important to know the facts and act accordingly. This is not an area for political spin at all. Just make sure your family is as protected as possible.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 09:03 PM
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51. That was actually already given.
This is basically where the hospital can't ignore the power of attorney.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 10:08 PM
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28. knr!
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 10:34 PM
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29. Progressive Values Will Win The Day for Us
Little things like this matter a great deal for many of us. A great deal. Remain true to our values and promote them, and we will win the day.
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SpartanDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 02:03 AM
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30. K&R
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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 02:49 AM
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32. This brought me to tears. Way to go, Mr. president. Way to go.
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Sky Masterson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 03:52 AM
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33. That Hopey Changey thing kicks ass!
:)
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 07:39 AM
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36. CHANGE we can believe in!
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 08:11 AM
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37. Thank you, President Obama.
Today I am thinking of Janice Langbehn and Lisa Pond's family, and praying that such a horrific injustice will never happen again.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 09:06 AM
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39. Such horrific injustices will happen again and again
That is the price of inequality, that is what the 'defense of marriage' looks like. That is the bottom line. Without legal protections, and this memo creates none, such injustice will always occur. It is that simple. This is a step of sorts. Better than nothing. But it will by no means put an end to the many horrific injustices faced by GLBT people in the U.S. It is still legal in most states to fire us for being gay, to deny us housing or evict us. Those injustices are the daily cost of the inequality insisted upon by the religious community in this country.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 09:19 AM
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40. I am aware of all that.
No need to lecture a fellow victim. I was merely expressing my wish that such a horrific thing not happen again, and maybe hoping that this step could lead to such an end. God knows Rhythm and I live in terror of anything ever happening to HER, because her fundie family would jump at the chance to shut the door in my face for good. We're looking into getting papers drawn up, but we don't have a lot of confidence thanks to what happened to Janice and Lisa. They had all the proper paperwork too, and it happened anyway. :(
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 02:37 AM
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56. Lyric, you and Rhythm get that paperwork done anyway. Just do it, kids.
:hug:

Hekate

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 12:50 PM
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43. GLAAD Applauds Presidential Memorandum Adding Hospital Visitation Protections for Same-Sex Couples

GLAAD Applauds Presidential Memorandum Adding Hospital Visitation Protections for Same-Sex Couples

The Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD), the nation’s lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) media advocacy and anti-defamation organization, today welcomed news that President Barack Obama had signed a Presidential Memorandum adding vital protections for same-sex couples in matters of hospital visitation and other health care issues.

“The discrimination faced by Janice Langbehn and her children during such a tragedy should not happen to another family,” said GLAAD President Jarrett Barrios. “This federal recognition is an important step for gay and lesbian couples who only want the same opportunities to care for the person they love. When Americans hear personal stories like Janice’s about the hardships faced by gay and lesbian couples and their children, more and more fair-minded Americans are siding with equality.”

more

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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 02:05 PM
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44. about time! where were all the other so called Democratic presidents on this?
I just cannot BELIEVE the Talibanic rules that are in place now. How dare anyone tell you who you can have visit you or represent you.

it is just fucking unbelievable and I am so happy that this viscious thing will die.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 05:40 PM
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46. Finally...a courageous human being in the White House.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 08:57 PM
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50. I'm a fan of the President, but I wouldn't call this courageous
I'd say finally we have somebody in the White House who doesn't pursue the agenda of a fringe religious minority.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 09:05 PM
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52. I dunno...you know there will be even more anxious people.
They'll say the GAY will enter your home and take over. I'm actually happy our Black is opening the door for our Yellow, Red, Brown, and Rainbow people. Check out youtube vid in my sig to understand what I mean.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:41 PM
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57. Yeah, because Clinton and Carter were really pursuing religious agendas. (nt)
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:47 PM
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58. I was talking about the idiot son
Edited on Sun Apr-18-10 12:47 PM by Hippo_Tron
I was saying that in contrast it's nice to have a President that isn't beholden to a small minority of religious fanatics.
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greencharlie Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 05:40 PM
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47. well done...
this is one of those "what the hell have people been thinking for the last 100 years?" type things...

I personally think it's one of his best accomplishments thus far...
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undergroundnomore Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 05:50 PM
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48. This has been long over due
and I for one am waiting for the day when EVERY person can WED in ALL 50 states.

My neighbor has had to spend some time in the hospital recently. His life partner is a nurse at the hospital so he was able to see him and spend time with him. They have been together for 12 years. They have a VERY loving and caring relationship.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 06:30 PM
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49. But I don't KNOW anybody in the hospital now - does that mean I still have to visit?
Edited on Fri Apr-16-10 06:31 PM by TankLV
And which hospital am I assigned to visit, or can I choose?

This is all so confusing...
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 02:16 AM
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53. To quote Joe Biden, this is a big effing deal. Rachel Maddow was asked about it & praised him...
Rachel said that this (not being able to be with her partner in time of sickness) is the kind of thing that keeps her awake at night, and praised Prez Obama for this action. When pressed about DADT in the same interview (I think by Andrea Mitchell?) she said that while it was frustrating to have to wait, her observations of Obama were that he did things in a very deliberate manner, but that things got done.
:thumbsup:

Hekate

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 02:35 AM
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55. Why is Obama forcing me to have gay visitors? I want my country back!!!!!
:P
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:05 AM
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59. Kicking the good stuff!
Why not. I want to feel like today is a brighter day going into tomorrow, and I'll be damned if I let anything derailed that. This is great news, and hasn't worn off yet far as I'm concerned.
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