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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 04:19 PM
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Larry Summers about the amazing turnaround of the auto industry


What a difference a year makes. Just about a year ago, the American auto industry was on the brink of collapse. Today, General Motors announced that it has repaid its $6.7 billion loan to the U.S. government in full five years ahead of schedule, and Chrysler announced that, after taking one-time charges last year associated with its restructuring, it produced an operating profit in the first quarter of 2010 for the first time since the economic crisis began. The prospect of a faster than anticipated exit from government involvement and a return of most of the taxpayers’ investment in these companies has materially improved.

This turnaround wasn’t an accident of history. It was the result of considered and politically difficult decisions made by President Obama to provide GM and Chrysler – and indeed the auto industry – a lifeline, if they could demonstrate the will to reshape their businesses and chart a path toward long-term viability without ongoing government assistance.

In a new White House report (pdf), we look back at the distance that these companies and this industry have traveled over the past year. The conclusion I found most striking: In 2008, the American auto industry lost over 400,000 jobs and analysts estimated that at least 1 million more jobs could have been lost had GM and Chrysler liquidated. That didn’t happen. Instead, over the past nine months since GM and Chrysler emerged from bankruptcy, the industry has actually added 45,000 jobs – the strongest pace of job growth in the auto industry in nearly a decade.

This industry and our economy have a long way yet to go to repair the damage from this recession and return to full health. But the distance these companies and the auto industry have traveled over the past year is a bright spot on the road to recovery.



The full PDF is here:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/04/21/auto-industry-a-year-later
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 05:25 PM
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1. It's amazing that anyone would unrec this celebratory and factual OP. Lots of folks must hate...
... the taste of crow. ;)
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 08:37 PM
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2. Crow? GM's plants are now NON-union. Not something any dem can be proud of
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 10:04 AM
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17. Yes, crow. Lots of DUers were advocating that the WH should've let the auto industry fail...
Edited on Thu Apr-22-10 10:16 AM by ClarkUSA
... which was an echo of the Republican caucus' refrain at the time...."any dem" can be proud of a Democratic President saving millions of jobs and a manufacturing industry. Paying lip service to caring about the unemployed is meaningless pablum when one is blind to the success of this WH. Geithner and Summers prove once again they know more than their 24/7 critics.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 12:32 PM
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22. Fail! it's one thing to save jobs, another to destroy the union
that's what the forced quickie bankruptcy was all about.....save Wall Street but bust the union

of course every ethical person wanted to save the workers' jobs, no question! but the jobs AND the union could have been saved; instead Obama and Geithner foisted an "agreement" on the union that calls for NON-union GM plants

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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 07:52 PM
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28. Prove it. n/t
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Moosepoop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 12:42 PM
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23. "GM's plants are now NON-union"? Really? How many of them?
True, they recently opened a 25-worker lithium-ion battery plant in Brownstown, MI that is non-union.
First one in 30 years. That does count.

But other than that, where do you get the idea that "GM's plants are now NON-union"?? Their "plants"? Plural? That makes it sound like they've tossed the unions out of all their operations, which is absolutely not the case. They have one, very small, battery plant that opened without union representation. Not good, but not abolition of unions from their workforce, either.

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leeloo Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 09:32 PM
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8. I am confused GM is still operating at a loss.
Where did they get the money from?
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LetsgoWings13 Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 09:36 PM
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11. i have no idea
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leeloo Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 09:39 PM
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12. Thank you for your honesty at least you did not call me names.n/t
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LetsgoWings13 Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 10:00 PM
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14. no problem. im gonna treat you how i wanna be treated :)
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 10:28 AM
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18. GM overseas operations are profitable.
GM in NA is still struggling.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 11:02 AM
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19. Thanks for answering their question. I knew
there had to be way.
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leeloo Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 08:42 PM
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31. there had to be way.
GM repays loan to US… actually, not really (Update)

It was with great fanfare yesterday that General Motors announced that it was repaying some $4.7 billion of $6.7 billion in loans it received from the federal government. And, with even bigger fanfare, it was announced that this partial repayment was being made some five years earlier than expected.

What you weren’t told was that GM was able to repay the money by drawing down on a line of credit that it had from TARP! In other words, GM took funds still available to it through TARP and used those funds to repay the loan it received from the government. Of course, it now owes $4.7 billion on its line of credit with TARP, but, that doesn’t make for good news, so it wasn’t reported.

Here is how we know this. During an April 20 hearing on Capital Hill, Sen. Tom Carper, (D-Del.) asked some pointed questions of Neil Barofsky, the “special watch dog” on the Wall Street Bailout, aka, TARP.

It’s good news in that they’re reducing their debt,” Barofsky said of the accelerated GM payments, “but they’re doing it by taking other available TARP money.”…

“It sounds like it’s kind of like taking money out of one pocket and putting in the other,” said Carper, who got a nod of agreement from Barofsky.

“The way that payment is going to be made is by drawing down on an equity facility of other TARP money.”


http://radioviceonline.com/gm-repays-loan-to-us-actually-not-really/
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leeloo Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 12:16 PM
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21. While profits are up by around 12% compared to last year in Asia they
have to plow money back into The Opel and Vauxhall lines which make huge losses i think GM is giving it's European line $2.6 billion and a huge loss in the North American and Canadian Markets offset any profit margin..
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 08:55 PM
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3. Excellent news! n/t
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 09:05 PM
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4. The White House should check with the people who work for them.
The Department of Labor shows a loss of 31,000 jobs in auto manufacturing in the last year. http://www.bls.gov/iag/tgs/iagauto.htm
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 09:21 PM
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5. You should look more carefully before accusing them of lying.
We are at 671,000 now. In June of last year we were at 626,000. That's... *gasp* a 45,000 job increase.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 09:26 PM
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7. Yes, and what are their salaries comparatively and their benefits?
The only friend the common man and woman have had for years is the labor movement. The "refinancing" of the auto industry was at the expense of the labor movement.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 09:33 PM
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9. There were two alternatives on the table at the time: 1. No assistance. 2. The bail out we have now
The fact is that we still have something to build on, which is a lot more than the non-interventionists can say.
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 09:53 PM
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13. You should read the document before you accuse me of lying.
I said there was a loss of 31,000 in the last year. That's what the Department of Labor says. The Department of Labor is not trying to play games with the data.
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 11:26 AM
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20. DOL posted statistics are one year old 2008-2009, not 2009
or 2009-2010.
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 02:07 PM
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24. You fail.
The DOL link I posted is for statistics from March, 2010. That's , like, oh , one whole month ago.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 07:58 PM
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29. And Larry Summers said the last 9 months. His statement was factually accurate.
You chose to make a non-relevant point.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 09:23 PM
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6. It looks good on the "official" balance sheet and a nice PR plum...
Organized American Labor has been even more marginalized and required to give proportionally more to ensure the "stockholders" are taken care of. Look beyond the fluffy numbers.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 09:33 PM
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10. Common stockholders were wiped out.
Bondholders didn't even do that well compared to most bankruptcies.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 08:23 AM
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16. Those bonds are still being traded. I was amazed mine was worth anything
so I sold them...I made back some of my money, which is more than the zero I thought they were worth...
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 10:05 PM
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15. I remembe when DUers were advocating for the auto industry to fail.
Lord...some people. I'm glad this worked out. It seems Geithner and Summers are coming through.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 02:12 PM
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25. GM's "turnaround" is indeed amazing.
I mean, eliminating a lot of benefits to save money, eliminating numerous pension liabilities to save money, and cutting pay scales to save money.

Amazing they saved money. Then again, they wanted to do it and nobody wanted them to. Or would let them--until threatened by bankruptcy.

Of course, part of the bankruptcy threat wasn't just that they were losing money--it was that they couldn't make the 3 savings I already mentioned without bankruptcy protection. And there was a liquidity crisis that made available money in short supply and expensive.

Given that, it's even more amazing that there's a turnaround. After all, as the recession ends what do we expect? For things like car sales to improve? Unheard of.

Summer's is ecstatic at having the full $6.x paid off. Since it reduces the deficit for this year or allows additional money to be spent--since the money was an expense, when it's returned it'll have to be booked as income. Perhaps they can contribute that money to the GSEs. They seem to need a lot of it.

Summer would be even *more* ecstatic if GM can pay what he overlooks in his ecstasy: the nearly $50 billion *ownership* stake that the federal government bought. $6.7 billion loan, $45-50 billion ownership stake--we only talk about one, because the other, well, still needs to be done.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 05:02 PM
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26. Great news! Also, I just heard on the radio that existing home sales
are up 16 percent since last year! This is also great news as we have to deplete our huge inventory of homes before new ones can be built.

The economy is moving along pretty damn good. This is especially surprising considering that Geithner and Summers were total losers didn't know what the fuck they were doing, according to a bunch of dimbulbs who clearly didn't know what they were talking about.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 05:05 PM
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27. Back to business as usual.
As if that was anything to celebrate.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 11:04 PM
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30. Way to go President Obama..so glad you are
in charge.
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