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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 07:53 AM
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Guy Fawkes, New Republican Hero
Cripes, what are they smoking over there? This is how they reckon they'll 'win'?


http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_04/023489.php


GUY FAWKES, NEW REPUBLICAN HERO.... Last fall, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) organized a right-wing rally on Capitol Hill for November 5, in the hopes of killing health care reform. After characterizing her followers as "insurgents" and "freedom fighters," Bachmann urged far-right activists to, in her word, "scare" federal lawmakers.

The scheduling of Bachmann's Capitol Hill soiree was a little disconcerting -- she picked a date widely known as Guy Fawkes Night. In other words, one of the country's most extreme lawmakers chose to rally right-wing activists, label them an "insurgency," and encourage them to roam the halls of Congress deliberately "scaring" members of Congress, on the infamous date that marks an attempt to blow up the Houses of Parliament.

Fortunately, 11/5 came and went without incident. But the Republican affection for Guy Fawkes has apparently not dissipated. Time's Michael Scherer had this report:

The Republican Governors Association has embraced the symbolism of Fawkes, launching a rather striking website, RememberNovember.com, with a video that showcases far more Hollywood savvy than one can usually expect from Republicans. Again, the Fawkes tale has been twisted a bit. This time, President Obama plays the role of King James, the Democratic leadership is Parliament, and the Republican Party represents the aggrieved Catholic mass.

The politics and substance aside, this strikes me as a remarkable bit of political messaging, not just for its cinematic quality. The RGA, under the control of Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, is clearly stepping out of the stodgy, safe territory it normally inhabits. It is aiming to tap into the vast well of anti-government fury now coursing through the nation. Who would have guessed that Barbour would embrace the symbolic value of the same would-be mass murderer as the Wachowski brothers?


Josh Marshall added, "I find this completely bewildering. The Republican Governors Association is embracing the mantle of a 17th century radical who tried but failed to pull off a mass casualty terrorist attack to kill the King of England and all of Parliament.... Nothing shocks me anymore. But this shocks me."

It's a reminder that the Republican mainstream made a right turn at scary, and have arrived right at stark raving mad.


—Steve Benen
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 08:12 AM
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1. That would be some strage fruit...
Edited on Sat Apr-24-10 08:21 AM by depakid
And I'll tell you something else from far parts of the world- It's not so easy to find the most outstanding places.

We search for them- Last of the Tuarts- and so forth

More than that- from the ends of the earth, we look back.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 08:26 AM
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2. Holy cow.
Scary.
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 08:28 AM
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3.  It's as if they are egging on their RNC followers towards assassination.
Edited on Sat Apr-24-10 08:31 AM by political_Dem
Again, where is the Dept. of Homeland Security on this? It seems like everyday, they are engaging in seditious behavior. Plus, they aren't doing anything to restrain their "thugs" the Teabaggers.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 08:46 AM
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4. ABSOLUTE FACT: There ARE people who DESIRE Violence.
They are addicted. They cannot identify purpose, meaning, value, motive without violence.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 08:53 AM
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5. Time for DU to delete the V for Vendetta avatars
Also, nowhere in this video is there any reference to Guy Fawkes, Guy Fawkes day, or anything associated with V for Vendetta.

It is bad propaganda but I've watched this twice per link on DU and I see no link to that movie.


Remember November is actually a monarchist poem in England celebrating Guy Fawkes capture, torture, and execution.

Remember remember the fifth of November
Gunpowder, treason and plot.
I see no reason why gunpowder, treason
Should ever be forgot...

This a bad piece of hack journalism, the reporter should be fired unless he has someone on the record saying the website is in the spirit of Guy Fawkes.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 09:17 AM
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6. So many 'hack' journalists, so little time. Maybe it's you?
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 09:46 AM
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7. Is there a quote from a GOP governor honoring Guy Fawkes or the movie
Edited on Sat Apr-24-10 09:51 AM by AllentownJake
V for Vendetta?

It is fucking hack journalism, the Time Report pretty much made this story up. TPM this is their messaging, the reference to Fawkes or V for Vendetta was made by the reporter, there is no fucking reference to it in the video or on their website.

Just because they side with me ideologically on more than a few issues, doesn't mean I should give them a pass for making shit up.

Remember November is a royalist mantra, not one of the Catholics, fucking a freshmen in college who is taking an Intro to British history class could point that out.
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Junkie Brewster Donating Member (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 09:50 AM
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8. A few of my friends on Facebook have posted this video
What can I say? They weren't anti-American fascists when we were kids. Anyway, I am posting this poem whenever I see that someone likes the Remember November video.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 09:56 AM
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10. Remember November
Edited on Sat Apr-24-10 10:13 AM by AllentownJake
Was pretty much King James rallying cry against the ultra protestants and Catholics...his grand kid loses that battle.

Sorry, get Charles I lost in there because his reign wasn't that long.
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 10:03 AM
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11. I agree
this is a big reach on Time, Washington Monthly and TPM's part. I see no Guy Fawkes references on their website.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 09:50 AM
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9. Remember all that creepy talk from the right about Dumbyah being our "Divinely anointed"
President?

Wasn't James I England's "divinely anointed" king?

Why would repukes celebrate going against God like that?

Just asking...
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 10:10 AM
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12. Actually Charles II
Edited on Sat Apr-24-10 10:11 AM by AllentownJake
James I dabbled in it, his grandkid embraced it, and the English cut off his head.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 10:33 AM
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13. It was James I that Guy Fawkes & Co. tried to blow up, though.
That was what I was talking about.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 10:43 AM
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14. Yes and he wasnt really that big of a divine right guy
Edited on Sat Apr-24-10 10:48 AM by AllentownJake
Oops, I was wrong, he was moderate because he introduced the concept, his Grandkid ran with it.

Sorry, my mistake.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 10:48 AM
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15. But my point was that the repukes were trying to confer "divine right" status on the Presidency.
But evidently just for B*sh.

That braindead shitbag only attains the office because of five monstrously corrupt Supreme Court justices, and that's proof of God's desire to see him be President.

Barack Obama wins an undisputed election with 53% of the vote, and he somehow thwarted the will of the people and of God himself.

:eyes:
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 10:50 AM
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16. The Republicans up to 2 months ago
were not needed for any legislation to pass congress...as far as what they think, after Nixon, what they think is generally fucking crazy.

Can't say the democrats are doing much better, they've embraced some of the crazy.

Apologies for James I, he seems moderate on divine right because he introduced the concept.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 02:32 PM
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17. Odd - things didn't really turn out so well for The Guy.
He only escaped being hung, drawn, and quartered by leaping from the gallows and breaking his neck. Is that really how republicans want things to turn out?
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DFLforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 09:38 PM
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18. This is so odd. The GOPers supporting the papists in a
seditious plot against Protestant England. King James Bible, anyone?

These people are dim.




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PJPhreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 04:23 AM
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19. for Teh Intertube Savy...
Is this what Anyone would want representing YOUR Political Group?




Maybe we should call the Repukes "Teh Chan Klan"
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 05:29 AM
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20. I'd love to see Bachmann arrested for inciting violence.
She is no better than any garden variety terrorist with a bomb strapped to them.
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