Lindsey Graham pushed for immigration reform, now he's upset?

They always have to have something to be outraged output. It's how they operate. When you're not interested in facts you instead obscure everything with false outrage and fear-mongering.

Seems like a pretty stupid thing to get *outraged* about but then again outrage (and hypocrisy) seems to come quite naturally to these people. I guess he's just going to take his ball and go home now? :shrug:

group?? If the GOP turn this group off, what happens
to the future of the GOP??? Now does it not make
sense they would not want this issue prior to fall
elections??? Why are they screaming Bringing this
issue up now is a political move?

My question to them is why did the Party not have a
Come to Jesus talk with the Republicans in Arizona
before they passed this law at this time.

bill because he is bing blackmailed by the Dems over being gay. The Teabagger said Graham has to admit he is gay so that he can't be forced to support Democratic initiatives by the threat of being outed.

Obviously he is not being lackmailed by Dems into supporting such things, but he is clearly worried about the Teabagger's call out.

Besides, the R's always do this. They demand that their ideas be considered, and when they are, then they attack the final bill anyway, even if it's their own bill, just because it is being proposed in a Dem administration.

That was with significant Republican support. Pushing this through as they are intending is very likely to fail.

How do we get the Democrats who voted against it. Democrats who voted against cloture were Baucus, Bayh, Bingaman, Sherrod Brown, Byrd, Dorgan, Harkin, Landrieu, McCaskill, Nelson, Pryor, Rockefeller, Stabenow, Tester and Webb. Are we sure we can get all of these as well as one of the "just say no" Republicans and all new Democrats?

are likely to be won over. Obviously there won't be much, if any, republican support this time. If repubs want to unanimously oppose immigration reform in an election year, they can successfully kill it. The same can be said of financial reform, climate change reform, etc. If the repubs want to oppose everything, we can't overcome that in the Senate, but we can make sure they do it before the election so voters will know what their party stands for (or, more accurately, against).

Do you know for a fact that the as yet not written bill will have union support? In 2007, they split on key issues - https://nacla.org/node/1474

immigration, finance, climate, etc. If they want to defeat them, they can, but make them pay the price. Don't just avoid bringing them up.

I know that the AFL-CIO and Change to Win endorsed Obama's immigration reform framework in April 2009.

Change to Win And AFL-CIO Unveil Unified Immigration Reform Framework"

http://www.changetowin.org/for-the-media/press-releases-and-statements/change-to-win-and-afl-cio-unveil-unified-immigration-reform-framework.html

"Joseph T. Hansen, International President of the United Food and Commercial Workers International Union (UFCW) and chair of the Change to Win Immigration Task Force, and John Sweeney, International President of the AFL-CIO, today unveiled a unified framework for comprehensive immigration reform legislation.

The joint announcement and proposal is a critical sign of support for the Administration and Congress to address immigration reform -- and to ensure that it remains a priority on the legislative calendar. It is also an important sign that immigration reform is an important part of economic recovery.

The plan adheres to the Administration's goals by creating a framework that deals with the critical components of reform and does it through interconnected initiatives. The proposal calls for:
(1) an independent commission to assess and manage future flows, based on labor market shortages that are determined on the basis of actual need;
(2) a secure and effective worker authorization mechanism;
(3) rational operational control of the border;
(4) adjustment of status for the current undocumented population; and
(5) improvement, not expansion, of temporary worker programs, limited to temporary or seasonal, not permanent, jobs. "

Whether the unions will support the "as yet not written bill" or not, who knows. They have taken a position to support what Obama established as a framework for immigration reform, but how that plays out with a specific future bill, we'll have to wait and see.

Climate Change would have had a better chance of passing, I think.

now. There was nothing for the Dems to do but to address the issue. Their hands are now tied because the racist nutbags in Arizona made it an issue. And Hispanic Americans were already holding Obama's feet to the fire to get something done this year. There's no reason why energy reform couldn't happen as well.

Make them sleep in their own beds.

Not to mention that since it is Obama/Democrats who are pushing for comprehensive reform, he cannot have that and is now against it. When it was McCain/Bush and Teddy Kennedy, it was o.k. because the president was a Republican.

These people are major hypocrites!

Wonder how much pressure he's getting from that right wing nutcase who is threatening to out him as a gay man.

The guy is an asshat, pure and simple. Look at how he was whining about how health care reform was socialism, how he thinks Obama is a socialist, how he hung out with the other reptile Lieberman in their adoration of the Ultimate Phony, John McCain.

Lindsey Graham is a coward and a charlatan.

Right-wing legislators will push their entire agenda in exchange for tactical support on any specific issue.

If you pander to them to get their support on one Bill, they will demand that their agenda be met in other pieces of legislation.

Which is why Obama needs to govern more like FDR, and less like Bill Clinton.

that Graham was upset because the immigration bill was being moved ahead of the climate change bill that he has been working on with Kerry and Lieberman. He felt that putting the climate change bill on the back burner at this time to go after immigration was a bad move. This article seems to say the same.

http://www.nytimes.com/cwire/2010/04/26/26climatewire-senate-sponsors-scramble-to-save-climate-bil-40498.html

:shrug:

Someone got his feewings hurt.

Hartmann pointed out that if the Immigration bill is ahead of the Energy bill, McCain would have to go on record with his agreement on immigration reform and could lose to the Teabaggers who will vote against reform and/or flip-flopping on the issue.

Graham probably got the phone call from Johnny Songbird saying he needed to be as unprincipled as Johnny is.