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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 11:15 AM
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"I want to find Republicans to take seriously, but it is hard..."
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_04/023506.php

HAYWORTH EXPLAINS HIS 'BIRTHER' INCLINATIONS.... State lawmakers in Arizona not only passed an odious new immigration law last week, they also moved forward on a "birther" bill that would require presidential candidates to produce a birth certificate before they can be on the ballot in the state.

It was a reminder that the strain of madness in contemporary Republican thought is still going strong, 14 months after President Obama took office.

Nevertheless, the nutty effort has its defenders. One of them wants to be a U.S. senator.

U.S. Senate candidate J.D. Hayworth is critical of the so-called "birther bill" that cleared the Arizona House of Representatives last week because it doesn't go far enough.

Hayworth, who has cited the possibility of "identity theft" as a reason to want to see President Barack Obama's birth certificate, said the Arizona measure is "too narrowly drawn" because it would force only presidential candidates to produce evidence of their citizenship and other qualifications. <...>

"It's real simple: We now require voters to offer proof that voters are who they say they are," Hayworth said Friday at a news conference in Phoenix. "If we're asking that of voters, shouldn't we ask candidates for every office on the ballot to be able to offer proof that they are who they say they are?"


So, J.D. Hayworth thinks the guy who says he's Barack Obama might not really be Barack Obama? Is this the point behind the "identity theft" concern?

As Marc Ambinder noted the other day, "I want to find Republicans to take seriously, but it is hard. Not because they don't exist -- serious Republicans -- but because ... they are marginalized, even self-marginalizing and the base itself seems to have developed a notion that bromides are equivalent to policy-thinking, and that therapy is a substitute for thinking."


Hayworth will face Sen. John McCain in an Aug. 24 primary.

—Steve Benen
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 11:18 AM
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1. It is hard if you look for them on TV - I know some pretty smart ones in person
but they are not party hacks but regular thoughtful individuals who tend to favor republicans over most democrats.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 11:40 AM
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2. Thoughtful republicans and they are not embarrassed by the likes of Hayworth?
The few republicans I know who have not sold their souls to the crazies are terribly embarrassed by their current situation.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 06:15 PM
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3. My favorite post in the comments on this.....
Where is Hayworth's proof? We don't even know what his first name is! "J. D.", what is he trying to hide?
How do we know he isn't "Juan Dominguez Hayworth"???
Posted by: biggerbox on April 26, 2010 at 10:54 AM
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 06:19 PM
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4. hayworth is not respecting his voters..insulting
their intelligence. OTH..where would candidates like him be without fauxsn00ze & hateradio dumbing them down?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 06:23 PM
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5. As long as the electorate that votes for these people is so mean, stupid, and bigoted...
This situation won't change significantly.

Democracies are only as good as their electorates.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 10:45 PM
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6. Anytime a Republican exhibits flash of what appears to be "sanity" (and even intelligence)
Edited on Mon Apr-26-10 10:47 PM by Proud Liberal Dem
they quickly get whipped right back INTO insanity by their party leaders and/or teabagger and/or fundie and/or Wall Street masters. Over the past year, we've seen signs that people like Snowe, Collins, Corker, Graham are not altogether unthinking and/or unfeeling beings but their forays into responsible and clear-headed thinking seem far too short-lived to actually get anything meaningful passed in a genuinely bipartisan fashion. Even Republicans such as Richard Lugar who I have some respect for and have voted for in the past seem to be hopelessly under the malevolent influence of the radical right wing of their party.
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