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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 12:21 PM
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the Democratic party used to be strong on drilling
they did cave a few times, but overall they were pretty strong.

One of the few successful filibusters in the Bush era was the filibuster of drilling in ANWR.

And Pelosi has a long record of fighting on the issue:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/17/washington/17pelosi.html

(...)

WASHINGTON — Upon entering Congress in 1987, Representative Nancy Pelosi quickly became part of the solid California front against oil drilling along much of the nation’s coast.

The Santa Barbara oil spill in 1969 and the steady push to tap the potential reserves off the state’s rugged coast had galvanized Californians and made opposition to offshore drilling part of the political DNA of up-and-coming figures like Ms. Pelosi.

She repeatedly resisted oil drilling in marine sanctuaries near her San Francisco district and, after joining the Appropriations Committee, was an advocate of reinstating the ban on coastal drilling through spending restrictions each year.

“We learned the hard way that oil and water do not mix on our coast,” Ms. Pelosi told a crucial committee in 1996 as she argued for keeping the ban before a Congress then controlled by Republicans.

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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 12:28 PM
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1. they need to be strong on energy independence
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 12:36 PM
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2. what you said used to be GOP rhetoric
it used to be that the GOP said offshore drilling was necessary for energy independence, and the democrats rejected that it was necessary.

Sometimes, back then, they rejected it in very strong language:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-nancy-pelosi/bush-drilling-proposal-is_b_115922.html

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The president has failed in his economic policy, and now he wants to say, 'but for drilling in protected areas offshore, our economy would be thriving and the price of gas would be lower.' That hoax is unworthy of the serious debate we must have to relieve the pain of consumers at the pump and to promote energy independence.

Today, the New Direction Congress will vote on legislation to bring down gas prices by taking crucial steps to curb excessive speculation in the energy futures market. The president himself could lower prices by drawing down a small portion of our government oil stockpile, the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. The New Direction Congress will continue to bring forth responsible proposals to increase supply, reduce prices, protect consumers, and transition America to a clean, renewable energy independent future.
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 12:49 PM
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3. as well as conservation
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 04:10 PM
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4. "Independence" meaning what, specifically?
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 06:57 AM
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12. Don't wait for a response from that poster.
They are a notorious one-line hit and run poster.
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 04:27 PM
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5. some still are
did you watch the first part of Rachel Maddow on Friday night?
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 04:29 PM
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6. I guess that was the old "Democratic wing" of the party.
Sad to see what has become of it today.
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CBR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 04:49 PM
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7. Drilling in certain places I suppose -- mountaintop removal,
not so much. I guess there is not enough wildlife in Appalachia.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 08:06 PM
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8. my stomach literally turns even thinking about mountaintop removal.
it is an obscene practice. I can only assume that approx. 5% of the population knows what is happening to the appalachian mountains.


I haven't seen one televised special or news special about it, have you?


It makes me sick.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 08:37 PM
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9. This latest "unilteral concession" sure came back to bite the administration and the Dems
Put a pretty big dent in their claim to the moral and political high ground on what will be a defining issue for the rest of the decade- and beyond.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 07:02 AM
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14. And killed the energy bill.
They'll have to start over. Hopefully, they will learn from their mistakes, that it is best to take the correct position to not look like a fool.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 09:09 PM
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10. The Democratic Party used to be a strong supporter and defender of
labor and of public education, too.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 02:21 AM
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11. Many members of the Democratic party still are
Edited on Mon May-03-10 02:23 AM by depakid
Not everyone has forgotten what traditional Democratic values are.

Some still stand up and fight even if it might seem to be a losing cause-

Some will fight if they think they might win-

Others still will go along- because that's what they've done to get where they are- go along to get along.

When it comes down to it, there really aren't all that many bad eggs- and with a bit of courage and willingness to conflict and take some risks, they're not all that hard to weed out over time.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 08:09 AM
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15. What do you suggest we do to "weed them out?" nt
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 07:01 AM
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13. “Oil rigs today generally don't cause spills,”- Obama (4/2/10)
When Democrats start taking repuke positions, we lose that ability to distinguish ourselves on the issue. This leak could have led to a significant Democratic advantage and, more importantly, an clean energy advantage.

But, Obama and the other neutralized it as a Democratic issue.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 08:32 AM
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16. Some Democrats like Warner and Webb are in favor of drilling. Others like Nelson are against it.
Edited on Mon May-03-10 08:33 AM by Mass
It really depends of whom you talk.
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