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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:09 AM
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Former Colo. DNC Chairs Open Letter to Obama et al re-Senate Primaries.
This link was posted elsewhere by an alert DUer but since this topic has sparked some debate elsewhere, I thought I would move it to an OP so more could see it and judge it for themselves.


Open Letter to President Barack Obama, Democratic National Committee Officers and the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee:
3/05/2010

As former members of the Democratic National Committee (DNC), we had the honor of serving as staff or DNC members for a collective total of 38 years between 1971 and 2010. During our service on the DNC, no sitting Democratic President of the United States ever became involved in a Democratic primary for the U.S. Senate. When I (Polly) was Vice Chair of the National Democratic Party (1981-89), I pledged prior to my election that I would not be involved in any Democratic primary race, which was the norm for national Party Officers.

Former state Sen. and former Democratic National Committee Vice Chair Polly Baca, center, joined other former Democratic Party officials at a news conference outside state party headquarters Feb. 16 to ask President Barack Obama to stay out of the U.S. Senate primary between U.S. Sen. Michael Bennet and former state House Speaker Andrew Romanoff. Obama was set to appear at a series of fundraisers for Bennet in Denver that week. Baca, who has endorsed Romanoff, expressed “dismay and alarm” that the president and some party groups are backing Bennet. Julia Ann Hicks, past vice chair of the state party, left, and Dick Barkey, past Jefferson County party chairman, right, echoed Baca’s remarks.

We are alarmed that this long-standing tradition has been violated by the current National Democratic Party and our current President, whom we both supported for election. It is inappropriate and unacceptable for national Democratic Party officials and the President of the United States, who is the titular head of the Democratic Party, to engage in Democratic primaries. Colorado Democrats have the inalienable right and intelligence to select their own candidate for the highest political position in the state without interference from our Democratic leaders in D.C. who are supposed to be supportive of our local parties and candidates.

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Former Executive Director of the Colorado Democratic Party, Mr. Darryl Eskin, added that “When I was Executive Director, it was a firm principle that the State Democratic Party not endorse or support primary candidates participating in the party caucus process. It seems that big money still talks louder than the grassroots in the Democratic Party. If that doesn’t change, our current role as the preeminent party nationally and in Colorado will be short lived and the voters will toss us out like yesterday’s newspaper.”

Polly Baca and Ramona Martinez

Baca is a former Colorado state senator (1978-1986), former Vice Chair of the Democratic National Committee (1981-1989), served as Special Assistant to the Chair of the Democratic National Committee (1971-1972) and served as a member of the DNC from 1973-1989. Martinez served as a member of the Democratic National Committee for 16 years (1996-2010, Chair and Vice Chair of the DNC Hispanic Caucus (2001-2009) and Secretary of the DNC Women’s Caucus.


http://www.coloradostatesman.com/content/991665-open-letter-president-barack-obama-democratic-national-committee-officers-and-democra

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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:18 AM
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1. gotta keep progressive dems away from the conservative dems running the country lol nt
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:19 AM
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2. Well, one of the two candidates has a DLC history
...and it ain't Bennet.
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Lord Helmet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:23 AM
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3. That's not proof that's an opinion and my local party doesn't agree.
Of course you don't want to hear that because you're bent on bolstering your point of view with somebody else's point of view as opposed to arguing facts.

Carry on with your awesome crusade to hamstring the party.
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:27 AM
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5. Who said it was proof? Of course it is an opinion.
Edited on Thu May-06-10 09:28 AM by freddie mertz
An opinion from the field.

Local activists tend to resent national party meddling in primaries.

That has been my experience over the years anyway.

I think it is hamfisted, at best.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:24 AM
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4. That's the tradition, if not the rule, in California
When two democrats are opposing each other in the primary, the party does not endorse either candidate, there are votes to endorse or not at the state convention, but that is with all delegates voting.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:30 AM
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6. They are entitled to their opinion.
Edited on Thu May-06-10 09:52 AM by ClarkUSA
I notice that they are using weasel phrases: "ever became involved"/"to engage".

However, what they said does not contradict the historical precedent that Democratic Presidents, as titular heads of the Democratic Party, have always endorsed incumbent Democratic senators in a primary, as in the case of Blanche Lincoln. When there is not an incumbent, as in the case of the Hawaii house race, Democratic Presidents will not take sides publicly.
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:33 AM
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7. Do you have sources for your "always" claim?
As I noted in the other thread, I don't have evidence either way at my fingertips.

You seem to have it.

Could you share your sources with us, to help clear it up?
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:50 AM
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9. This is historical precedent, which you can check yourself. It's your OP. n/t
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 10:06 AM
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10. "My OP" makes no such claim.
The Colorado people whose open letter I posted describe their own experience going back to the 70s.

But that covers only some people and one state.

It is THEIR claim, not mine, that you are disputing, and it would be helpful, I am sure, to the entire reading audience to know if there is some contradictory evidence.

If you have it, why not share it?
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 10:26 AM
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11. You're extending our previous discussion in another thread, so yes, you are.
And as I said before, the "Colorado people" used weasel words and didn't specifically dispute the fact that sitting Democratic presidents have a duty to endorse incumbent Democratic Senators during a primary.

I'm done kicking this thread. You're just spinning your wheels in your ongoing attempt to cast aspersions, however meaningless, against Democratic President Obama.
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 10:33 AM
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12. Evasive.
You claim in multiple threads that presidents always endorse incumbents in primary races.

That may be, but you refuse to provide evidence for it when asked for it in the most civil of terms.

I can only conclude that you have no evidence, or else you would have provided at least some little thing.

Thanks for stopping by anyway.

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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:45 AM
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8. Well, the only conclusion I derive from this
is that the people on the DNC seem to feel they are more important than the people running for office. I see just another stumbling block to the election. Are the rules set in stone?
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 11:08 AM
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13. The DNC/DLC/DSCC/DCCC (all the same fucking thing anymore) should stay out of primaries
And so should the president. The Ohio primary was a disastrous failure. They're obviously hoping for similar results in Arkansas and Colorado. If these worthless DLC candidates were doing their jobs, they wouldn't have primary opponents in the first place. They should not get automatic support, especially when they are proven failures like Blanche WalMart.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 11:16 AM
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14. You'd think Obama would have learned from his experience with Lieberman & Lamont
That showed even poorer judgment than the decision to open the coast to drilling while the federal agency to regulate them was still being run by reckless deregulators.
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 07:13 AM
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15. Meanwhile, the WH-backed Specter finds himself in a dead heat with Sestak.
Apparently the party rank and file are showing more independence and more openness to change than the WH would seem to be comfortable with.
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 07:52 AM
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16. Party by-laws state that you don't get involved in contested primaries.
I wish someone at the DNC would read them.
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