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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 03:26 PM Original message |
Kerry-Lieberman Climate Proposal a Disaster for Climate |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. "This proposal moves us one baby step forward and at least three giant steps back..." |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 07:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Wow, Gore supports it too |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 08:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. LOL, add Specter and the naysayers will be seething. n/t |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:41 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. ... |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Obama can sell out to the industry all he wants! |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Al Gore too, a total sell out on the environment |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:11 AM Response to Reply #9 |
30. Gore, Kerry and Lieberman, along with John Heinz and Tim Wirth |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. much of what the NRDC says agrees with the OP |
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Robeson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:15 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. You get it. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:20 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. "Senators Kerry and Lieberman have done a remarkable job of building the foundation ... |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:50 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Bingo |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:06 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. that's kinda hard to follow |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:22 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. "Peeps" is slang for people |
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pundaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:00 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Couldn't something at least be good? Does Power always have to be enriched just to |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:49 AM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Where was the support from these people for Kerry/Boxer? |
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pundaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:11 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Yes, sometimes there is great complexity. Corporate control is a constant. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:08 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. It worked for acid rain |
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pundaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 03:44 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. The "real world" they work in is of their own creation. Fire the lot and hire representatives of |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 05:45 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. "hire" representatives of the people? |
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pundaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 06:26 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. I have no way of being sure the folks I vote for will do what I want or even what they promised. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 03:15 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. of course it is |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:52 AM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Ok - YOU go lobby Feingold and Franken and the 12 others - tell them that |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 01:55 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. Interesting crickets on that issue n/t |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:38 PM Response to Reply #27 |
42. the problem wasn't Republicans but 13 D senators inc Franken, Feingold against the tougher bill |
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Robeson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:21 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. What's with the "Peeps"? Far be it for me to defend hfojvt.... |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:24 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. "Peeps" is slang for people |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:00 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. it may be stated a little strongly |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:42 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Calling the bill a disaster and three steps back is hyperbole |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
3. nope. |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
4. No it isn't. I has many wonderful things in it that promote conservation |
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pundaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:04 AM Response to Reply #4 |
25. We can't get something good, so here accept this shit...has gotten really old. |
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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
7. Oddly, U.S. Chamber of Commerce Refuses To Sign On... |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
8. nothing will ever be good enough for you |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:55 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. I think he just spends his whole day |
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pundaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:38 AM Response to Reply #8 |
26. I believe that like me, the OP just wants Obama to stop failing; and is there nothing bad enough for |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 01:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
37. Thank you n/t |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
11. Strangely, Lieberman never did have a bad record on the environment. |
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Robeson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
12. I would like to see the full bill. I agree that many good sources like The Nation... |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 08:25 AM Response to Reply #12 |
34. The Nation is not a good source here |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:14 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Good question |
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denimgirly (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 03:46 AM Response to Original message |
28. Always remember kids, when BIG MONEY is involved yout vote with NEVER count |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:54 PM Response to Reply #28 |
44. Yes, and even some of our democratic representatives have abdicated their |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 06:50 AM Response to Original message |
29. You really had to look for an organization there |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:20 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Thanks for the clarification. |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
35. Senator Kerry must work with the Senate he has, not the Senate he'd like. |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Yep. It sucks he has to work with these people |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
43. Sweet more too little, too ineffective, too many side effects legislation |
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