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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 07:05 PM Original message |
Obama endorses 'don't ask, don't tell' compromise in congress. DADT is over!!!!! |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
1. DADT is not over yet |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
2. Looks like we need to put our trust in Nancy. She said that she would work to end |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 07:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Write letters to Nancy in support of |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 07:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Today they were reporting that the House is the harder push on this vote, not the Senate. |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 07:13 PM Original message |
Many Blue Dogs are retiring. Their votes can be gotten. |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 07:15 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. That doesn't surprise me because House districts tend to be more ideologically homogenous |
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PopSixSquish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 10:33 PM Response to Reply #5 |
27. Nancy Can Count Votes and She Knows Which Buttons to Push |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 10:24 AM Response to Reply #2 |
54. Obama did give the Pentagon a December deadline. |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
3. It is? |
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Teka (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:06 PM Response to Reply #3 |
68. Exactly |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
6. Looks like Nancy was telling the truth. |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 05:01 AM Response to Reply #6 |
39. Has Nancy lied yet?! That's my girl. n/t |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 05:09 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. No, she was spot-on that "Impeachment has been taken off of the table." eom |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 05:32 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. What President was impeachment even on the table for? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 05:53 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. She could have done this ... she could be hailed as the LEADER who helped to save the |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 10:05 AM Response to Reply #45 |
51. As for the first part, she's done a great deal to be hailed as a LEADER. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:05 AM Response to Reply #39 |
63. Here's a good one from the vault: |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:20 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Seems like that is happening. Another promise fulfilled. Thanks for pointing that out |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:32 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Oh Yes! |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 01:18 AM Response to Reply #63 |
89. They made a positive move to end the war in Iraq. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 10:36 AM Response to Reply #89 |
91. Except that they haven't. Reality contradicts your post. |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
8. it is NOT over yet - they can study it for 20 years, Obama could suspend all |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 07:34 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. and he didn't call in Aquaman either. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 08:10 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. Please see my links for the anti-Obama naysayers below. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 10:51 PM Response to Reply #8 |
29. No, they cannot. Please see this link. The Secretary of Defense has mandated 12/1/2010 as the end |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 10:27 AM Response to Reply #29 |
56. My guess is that this is face-saving for the Pentagon. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
10. Is he going to suspend the dismissals while the Pentagon does all that studying? |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 07:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Me too |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:53 PM Response to Reply #11 |
82. He can suspend dismissals right this second |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:17 AM Response to Reply #10 |
47. "not so much" |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:25 AM Response to Reply #10 |
50. glad to see you've already deemed it a Bad Thing (tm) |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:19 AM Response to Reply #50 |
64. Yes, perhaps we should total up how many dismissals would occur from 2011 on without a repeal? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:08 PM Response to Reply #64 |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
12. Progress... |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
13. Some links for the anti-Obama naysayers... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
14. Cue responses saying it is too little, too late |
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Political Tiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 09:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Yep, |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
15. What do we do in the interem? |
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impik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
16. People unrec this???? Lame losers, Obama drink your milkshake. |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
18. I know, don't count chickens, but still, THIS IS AWESOME NEWS!!! |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
19. Rachel Maddow reported it as "Breaking News" about 15 min. ago! K&R. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
21. Recommend - about damn time. First step but a good one. Nt |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
22. almost... |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
23. YES! But I'm sure it's not over yet. There are some in the Pentagon |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 10:21 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Nope, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs is on board |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 11:31 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. I hope you are right. I don't doubt that the Chairman is on board, |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
24. Yeah, I think that might be a *tad* premature. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
25. It's pretty much a done deal |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 10:42 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. No more than half a year? |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 10:52 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Yes, 12/1/2010 is the last possible date for study. See this directive |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 01:07 AM Response to Reply #25 |
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lynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
32. So, "Compromise" is now defined as "Over"? |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:17 AM Response to Reply #32 |
48. The "compromise" is only on the timeline. |
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tranche (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
33. k/r |
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SpartanDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:50 AM Response to Original message |
35. It's not over until they vote on it. |
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political_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:38 AM Response to Original message |
37. I hope so. DADT could be the first domino to fall. And then, the others will. |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:50 AM Response to Original message |
38. All that pressure we were told not to apply is working? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:18 AM Response to Reply #38 |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 10:27 AM Response to Reply #38 |
55. And all the accusations that Obama abandoned the issue and would never do anything. |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 01:39 PM Response to Reply #55 |
75. Oh lord, they had to back him into a corner to get sideways movement |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:08 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Obama never backed off doing it his year. |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:32 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. I pay attention to this issue outside of how it relates to the President's PR |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:36 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Publicly called out? |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:49 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. There certainly is |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:56 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. “We all look forward to the report on the review of the ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’ policy" |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:03 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. "Some of us believe in advocacy without misleading exaggerations. Join us, won't you?" |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 05:01 PM Response to Reply #84 |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 05:05 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. It was a public repudiation |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 09:55 AM Response to Reply #86 |
90. Obama has been saying THIS year for a long while. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 10:37 AM Response to Reply #86 |
92. And yes, |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 05:05 AM Response to Original message |
40. I do not - and have never - understood DADT. |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 10:54 AM Response to Reply #40 |
61. It was a Clinton-era political compromise on the issue that completely backfired. |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 01:47 PM Response to Reply #40 |
76. Alot |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 05:08 AM Response to Original message |
41. Don't hold your breath. I won't believe it until IT HAPPENS. eom |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 05:48 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. This is your second post like this on a similar thread. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 05:55 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. OK, this also applies to your side. |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 10:06 AM Response to Reply #46 |
53. What side? I only posted a response to your post and another on Nancy P. |
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robinblue (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:12 PM Response to Reply #46 |
71. ah, the posting police. |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
52. This is pretty big, actually. I hate Lieberman, he is my Senator. But he may |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 10:29 AM Response to Reply #52 |
57. Seeing that they've announced a deal... |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 10:36 AM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Exactly, it's over. All over, that is, except for the hand wringing of those who are upset at |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 10:56 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Uh, NOTHING significant with regard to legislation has happened yet. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 01:34 PM Response to Reply #60 |
73. Sorry "ignored" I cannot read your response. n/t |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:14 PM Response to Reply #52 |
78. It will be harder in the Senate almost certainly. |
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SunsetDreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
67. K&R, woohoo !!! |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
70. We'll see. |
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racaulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
87. This is a tad premature. |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
88. One big question is whether the Senate Repugs will try to filibuster... |
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