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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 04:34 PM
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Obama Makes The Energy Connection
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_05/023992.php

OBAMA MAKES THE ENERGY CONNECTION.... Many progressive voices have been urging President Obama to be more forceful and direct in connecting the BP oil spill disaster with the need for a comprehensive energy/climate bill pending on the Hill. We're starting to see evidence that he's doing just that.

The president, for example, appeared in San Francisco, and highlighted the larger context.

"Even if you hadn't seen the catastrophe down in the Gulf, the reason that folks are now having to go down a mile deep into the ocean, and then another mile drilling into the ground below, that is because the easy oil fields and oil wells are gone, or they're starting to diminish."

He added, "That tells us that we've got to have a long-term energy strategy in this country. And we've got to start -- we've got to start cultivating -- we've got to start cultivating solar and wind and biodiesel. And we've got to increase energy efficiency across our economy in our buildings and our automobiles."


Commenting on his message to Senate Republicans yesterday, Obama added, "There's been some good work done by John Kerry and Joe Lieberman and Lindsey Graham. Let's go. Let's not wait."

The president emphasized a related point just a few hours ago:

"{T}he spill in the Gulf, which is just heartbreaking, only underscores the necessity of seeking alternative fuel sources. We're not going to transition out of oil next year or 10 years from now. But think about it, part of what's happening in the Gulf is that oil companies are drilling a mile underwater before they hit ground, and then a mile below that before they hit oil. With the increased risks, the increased costs, it gives you a sense of where we're going. We're not going to be able to sustain this kind of fossil fuel use.

"{E}ven as we are dealing with this immediate crisis {in the Gulf}, we've got to remember that the risks our current dependence on oil holds for our environment and our coastal communities is not the only cost involved in our dependence on these fossil fuels. <...>

"{T}hat's why we've placed a big emphasis on clean energy. It's the right thing to do for our environment, it's the right thing to do for our national security, but it's also the right thing to do for our economy.... {W}e've still got more work to do, and that's why I'm going to keep fighting to pass comprehensive energy and climate legislation in Washington. We're going to try to get it done this year, because what we want to do is create incentives that will fully unleash the potential for jobs and growth in this sector."


I haven't heard the president mention "this year" on the climate/energy bill in a while, so that was at least mildly encouraging, though he did preface it with "try," as opposed to "will."

In either case, drawing the connection between the disaster and the need for a new comprehensive policy is key. Here's hoping we'll hear this message more often, starting immediately.

—Steve Benen
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 04:37 PM
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1. DUH!
Jimmy Carter knew this 35 years ago.


TG
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 04:38 PM
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2. further proof you'll complain about everything.
:shrug:
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 04:40 PM
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4. if jimmy carter in fact "knew this" 35 yrs ago, and he did, how is that a complaint? nt
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 04:42 PM
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6. or, they could just be saying how prescient Carter was.
not everything has to fit neatly into your conspiracy theory.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 04:53 PM
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9. No, the "DUH!" is derisive of OP and not everything fits neatly into your theories about conspiracy
theories.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 04:59 PM
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10. I was giving the benefit of the doubt to the other poster.
you guys are really wound tight lately. Your zeal is causing you to malfunction in a civil discourse.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 06:39 PM
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16. Sorry.
:hi: Really. :hi:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 04:48 PM
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8. Gotta get that cheap shot on Pres Obama in there...otherwise
..it wouldn't be the same.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:11 PM
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11. Actually, no, I don't complain about everything
(and I believe the correct term is "evidence," not "proof.")


But I will complain about the absolute absolutism of some people on this board who absolutely refuse to tolerate anything that even carries a whiff of potential criticism of anything done/said by their annointed one.

I'm sorry, dionysus, but Jimmy Carter DID know this 34-35 years ago or more and he tried to get Americans to know it, too. He didn't do a particularly good job of it, sad to say, and then along came Saint Ronnie who took the solar panels off the White House and went right back to drill baby drill, with his VP George who then marched into the Gulf to protect "our" oil in Kuwait and whose slow-witted son fucked up everything even worse, especially the Department of the Interior under his oily oil friend Dickie Cheeeeeney. What we progressives have indeed been begging for is that the current president pay some attention to us, that he listen to the wisdom of people who are NOT spouting the drill baby drill party line, and that he really follow his own mantra for change.

My subject line "DUH" is shorthand for "WELL IT'S ABOUT FUCKING TIME!" and my post about Carter is to pay homage to his elder statesman wisdom which I'm old enough to remember AND old enough to have tried to follow in some small ways these past many years.


If you'd rather I not complain, if you'd rather I just smile and accept everything with the placidity of a pampered Holstein, you're free to put me on ignore. Because I'm not likely to stop complaining when I think there's something to complain about.



Tansy Gold
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:27 PM
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12. Yep...and Carter was basically dogged out of office by his own party.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 04:39 PM
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3. A comprehensive policy does not rely on drilling; a comprehensive policy is not just
another give-away to people like Slim Pickens (yeah, I know it's not his real name). Let's talk conservation...not corporate give-aways.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 04:40 PM
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5. um... ok that's a good thing
but the urgent need is now in the gulf.

but I am glad he's "trying" to do this.

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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 04:42 PM
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7. Read the garbage Kerry and Liarberman are proposing...yet another corporate
give-away.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:27 PM
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13. Kick
Wonder how many people have called their senators and encourage to support the Climate/Energy bill? (though it will be hard to pass, but good luck).

How many in this thread have called and asked why DU favorites are still siding with Coal people. (Oh, right, they have principles and every other Dem/liberal/progressive that does not is a sellout. Go figure).

As imperfect as the C/E bill is, you would think people would give it a chance and see where it goes. But if you order a Sundae without the cherry, you just throw the whole thing away. :sarcasm:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:30 PM
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14. Folks don't feel they need to incorporate the limits of dealing with real politics
They just want what they want, and keep asking every five minutes when are they gonna get it?

If the shit was so easy, these keyboard commanders would have had it done.....
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:34 PM
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15. Bingo n/t
Edited on Wed May-26-10 05:35 PM by politicasista
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 09:59 PM
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17. Kick for the truth. nt
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