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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 02:12 PM
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Poll question: Do you agree or disagree with President Obama's decision to not release bin Laden photos?
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 02:15 PM
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1. Disagree. Foments conspiracy theories.
Hopefully, it will be leaked anyway.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 02:21 PM
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2. wouldn't matter
he showed his long form birth certificate...and it didn't stop the conspiracy theories.

what makes you think showing a photo of a dead terrorist would stop them?
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 02:33 PM
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7. Exactly. They'd say it was photo shopped and anything
else they could conjure up. Fuck em.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:00 PM
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12. Respectfully, there are two groups here: skeptics and kooks.
The former could be assuaged by the release and would make the latter even more irrelevant.
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Bgno64 Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:50 PM
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16. There are actually 4 groups here
1. Those who believe everything the government tells them because it's the government.
2. Those who believe everything the government tells them so long as their party controls the government.
3. Those who don't believe everything the government tells them because they remember the times the government lied in the past
4. Those who don't believe the government ever because they think that government lies by its very nature.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:51 PM
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17. Excellent distinctions.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 05:02 PM
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22. add two more
5. Those who don't believe anything that the voices in their head didn't say. Members of that group come in all stripes.

6. Those who believe what can be proven by facts i.e the earth goes round the sun, Bin Laden is dead, Santa is not real, Bush didn't plan 9/11 etc.
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 06:48 PM
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25. Right about the number, wrong about the groups
Edited on Wed May-04-11 06:48 PM by stevenleser
1. Those who believe everything the government tells them because it's the government. (Less than .001% of DU'ers)
2. Those who believe everything the government tells them so long as their party controls the government. (Less than 1% of DUers)
3. Those who believe what the government says when it is backed up by facts. (85% of DUers including most Obama supporters)
4. Those who don't believe anything the government tells them because they like to feel like they are special and have some sort of special insight, even though they don't. (13.009% of DUers)
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 07:02 PM
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27. bs - I believe it because it is logical and believable.
Edited on Wed May-04-11 07:02 PM by OKNancy
and I admit, I'm more inclined to believe this administration than the past one.
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forty6 Donating Member (849 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 09:11 PM
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32. I think there are five or six groups here, those like me
5) Those who take the time to analyze each issue and the credibility of the reporters and make independent decisions based upon the available evidence, concluding sometimes that it is impossible to decide.

6) Those who, like me, tend NOT to believe certain reporters, but tend to believe the good will and track record of people like me who want to serve the truth and work for our government more than reporters who have an agenda. The government, after all, is people like you and me, unlike some guy on Fox News making millions spiking conspiracy theories with a scintilla of evidence or fact to go with their ego.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 02:32 PM
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6. Where's Bradley Manning when you need him?
Oh, yeah.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 02:47 PM
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9. howd that work with the birthers?
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 02:52 PM
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10. Pretty damn well. It is no longer an issue in the M$M.
Only the fringiest of fringe have hung onto it. Those kooks are irrelevant.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 02:22 PM
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3. Agree. Conspiracy theorists don't deal in facts/proof. They'd make up some reason to not
believe it's a real picture. Also, the pic would've been put up on all extremist websites, used to foment hatred against us, to recruit more extremists, etc.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 02:29 PM
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4. Agree. He took the high road. If they're leaked later, so be it. nt.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 02:30 PM
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5. As noted on my OP.......in where you agreed,
sounds like the perfect job for Wikileaks!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 02:41 PM
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8. I still think you've offered the perfect resolution, and I referred to it in another
post, too. Just perfect!
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 02:56 PM
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11. Disagree.
It would give the country closure. And the radical Islamists are going to hate us regardless of whether we release the photos or not. "We might get them angry if we release the photos" doesn't strike me as a good enough reason to deny the country closure.

The administration seems to be split on this.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:15 PM
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13. Agree. Would have been obscene. nt
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:46 PM
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14. An FOIA request will probably force eventual release but I
think the decision not to release now is a good and safer move. If pictures are eventually released due to an FOIA request (likely to be successful because digital pictures were recorded and stored on government property) they won't have the same explosive impact they could now.
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SpartanDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:48 PM
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15. I understand why he did it, but I disagree
I know that there that it could piss some people overseas off, but I think it's more important to be transparent with the American people.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 04:33 PM
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18. I have to agree (nt)
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 04:42 PM
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19. totally agree, unless he changes his mind
then I will totally agree with that.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 05:22 PM
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23. I think that reasonably a case could be made either way.......
Edited on Wed May-04-11 05:23 PM by FrenchieCat
But I think doing the opposite from what Bush did in reference to the Hussein Brothers
is probably a better choice. I remember seeing those photographs,
and simply shaking my head at the time.

Plus, if Fox wants it, then it's probably a good call for them
not to get them.

There's always Wikileaks.....
Guess that why it's there. :shrug:
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 04:45 PM
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20. Disagree.
Edited on Wed May-04-11 04:46 PM by treestar
Now there will be a gallery of nuts to claim OBL's not dead, and that this proves it.

Like the BC, he'll have to release it eventually and then there will have been time to photoshop or whatever. In fact there's time now. Oh well, maybe it makes no difference. Nutcases will be nutcases no matter what happens.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 04:49 PM
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21. Why do I have a feeling...
that they'll either be leaked, or released sometime around October, 2012?

Just thinking that strategy might be on the minds of some.. or at least wait a few months and milk this for all it's worth.
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 06:39 PM
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24. Agree wholeheartedly

A good decision on his part. Like he said, either way, the conspiracy theories will come out.

I do think, however, that the families and friends of 9/11 victims should have the opportunity to view them privately, if they
wish to.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 06:57 PM
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26. Disagree, I hope he will change his mind and think eventually he will but
by then the conspiracy nutcases will claim it took so long to release them because the time was needed to alter the pictures. :tinfoilhat:
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 08:15 PM
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29. The conspiracy freaks have already made up their minds and nothing is going to change them. n/t
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 08:14 PM
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28. Don't really care either way. Just happy he said something and hoepfully moving
on to other problems.
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glen123098 Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 08:16 PM
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30. Disagree, in general I believe in an open government.
I don't see any legitimate reason to keep it private.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 08:16 PM
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31. I'm personally not ready for those pictures to be released. So I agree. n/t
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admonish Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 10:40 PM
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33. I agree
but I would've liked to have seen 'em....I think the tin foil crowd is not who this is being censored from but from the joe-muslim from the literally billion among them....as usual our better than yer average bush president made a par (for him) thoughtful, all things considered decision.....bravo
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:01 AM
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34. Doesn matter ... people on the left and the right would be screaming either way.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:35 AM
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35. Don't care.....It's a shame that big actions always get enmeshed in stupid side issues
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:37 AM
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36. I'd release them so potential attackers can see how ruthless and brutal we can be in self-defene
But it's not my decision, and I respect the President's call.
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:49 AM
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37. agree. i want to see them though.
sue me
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 10:05 AM
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38. Agree. Unless the people clamoring to see them knew the guy personally, I don't
Edited on Thu May-05-11 10:05 AM by TwilightGardener
know that seeing a photo of a bearded guy with part of his face missing is going to prove anything identity-wise.
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Jeneral2885 Donating Member (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 10:06 AM
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39. I disagree more with
the news release of the USS Carl Vinson being the platform to send Osama's body to the depths of the ocean. Now terrorists will have another vessel to target.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 10:34 AM
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40. I thought about it, and I really don't care. nt
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 04:08 PM
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41. Agree. It shows he puts the nation's welfare above politics.
Besides, the Deathers would just say it was photo-shopped.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 06:10 PM
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42. I agree although I'm afraid that the photos will eventually be leaked anyway. n/t
Edited on Thu May-05-11 06:10 PM by totodeinhere
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