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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 08:20 PM
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The People's View: Glenn Greewald - Creepy
Edited on Thu May-05-11 08:21 PM by dennis4868
The professional screechers on the puritan "Left" are apparently having some problems with the fact that President Obama and his team was successful in taking out Osama bin Laden. They can't quite figure out a way to discredit the president for doing this, so there's a new approach: go after the people's reaction, caused by the announcement in a very creepy, nasty way. Oh, and bash the president for not getting bin Laden alive. Glenn Greenwald leads the clan.

Did you know that hunting down and killing Osama bin Laden is just like killing an innocent infant baby? Greenwald thinks so. No, I'm not making this crap up. From Greenwald's yesterday's piece of turd:


"It seems telling that hunting someone down and killing them is one of the few things that still produce these feelings of nationalistic unity. I got on an airplane last night before the news of bin Laden's killing was known and had actually intended to make this point with regard to our killing of Gadaffi's son in Libya -- a mere 25 years after President Reagan bombed Libya and killed Gadaffi's infant daughter."

See, Reagan bombed Tripoli, and Gaddafi's infant daughter was killed. Obama authorized an Navy SEAL operation against the compound where Bin Laden was hiding out and the operation actually resulted in the killing of Osama Bin Laden himself. Same thing. Pretty much. More or less. Oh, and I'm sure Mr. Greenwald will soon produce evidence of all the festivities that spontaneously erupted across the United States celebrating specifically the event that an infant was killed. Anytime. I'm sure.

This Glenn Greenwald dude is seriously creepy. Dude's seriously messed up.

The entire article is here....http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2011/05/glenn-greenwald-creepy.html
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 08:24 PM
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1. God I hate those leftists. /nt
(sarcasm)
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 08:36 PM
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7. Greenwald... a "leftist"?
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 08:43 PM
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9. I was responding to the OP
Edited on Thu May-05-11 08:44 PM by Armstead
The "professional screechers on the puritan left....blah, blah,blah"

I get really tired of hearing this right- wing insults on DU.

Greenwald is Greenwald...I don't care what he is, one way or another.

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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:01 PM
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14. Greenwald is NOT a "Leftist". He has his own personal agenda.
Politically, he's really more of a Libertarian.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 10:18 AM
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26. see my reply above and the sarcasm thingy in my original reply
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 06:30 PM
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38. When you put "nt" after you write something, why would anyone check the message part?
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 08:11 PM
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39. Picky, picky,picky..... --NT--
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 08:26 PM
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2. I worry more about the Puritan Conformist Centrists
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 08:31 PM
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3. I worry more about the Puritan Republican House Majority
and their obsession with abortion.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:44 PM
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12. Yep.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 08:32 PM
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4. Ah he is entitled to his opinion, just like the rest of us are.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 08:32 PM
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DisgustipatedinCA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 08:33 PM
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6. I just read Greenwald's entire column in Salon
...and I agree with every word of it.

I read this crap you posted from thepeoplesview, and it appears the author of that blog and I read very different Glenn Greenwald columns. "Seriously creepy" is not a compelling argument outside the confines of the 6th Grade and Facebook posts. Clearly, the author was one of those Greenwald described as being 'on the lookout for heretics'. Greenwald's doing just fine, as always, and peoplesview boy needs to just get used to the notion.
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 08:39 PM
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8. Where do you dig up this crap?
Did Greenwald equate killing OBL and killing Gaddafi's daughter? No, but why not claim that he did? It's fun to be fucking stupid, right?
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Ramulux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:25 PM
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10. This is some bullshit
You apparently don't even read the things you post, let alone Glenn's actual piece. A complete illogical smear job.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:44 PM
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11. Yes, those leftists are horrible. USA! USA! What site is this??
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 10:46 PM
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13. I could not agree more. Greenwald should form his own party.
I'm sure he was impressed with his nominee's debate performance tonight.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:04 PM
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16. He's trying to. But the net result will be to siphon votes.
But I don't think he cares. He is ego-driven.
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:01 PM
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15. Gah! Greenwald is not the left! He is a Civil Libertarian!
This is why he supports the Citizens United decision. Yes, we may agree with him on certain things, but he has never, ever described himself as liberal or a leftist. One of the biggest myths being pushed is that Glenn is a leftist just so that the corporate media can push the narrative that the left hates President Obama.

If anyone finds some quote from Glenn Greenwald in which he identifies himself as a liberal or leftist or a socialist, I would love to see it. If you read his book, he specifically denies being a liberal.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:05 PM
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17. +1
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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:08 PM
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18. Where did you hear that?
"The Supreme Court yesterday, in a 5-4 decision, declared unconstitutional (on First Amendment grounds) campaign finance regulations which restrict the ability of corporations and unions to use funds from their general treasury for "electioneering" purposes. The case, Citizens United v. FEC, presents some very difficult free speech questions, and I'm deeply ambivalent about the court's ruling. There are several dubious aspects of the majority's opinion (principally its decision to invalidate the entire campaign finance scheme rather than exercising "judicial restraint" through a narrower holding). Beyond that, I believe that corporate influence over our political process is easily one of the top sicknesses afflicting our political culture. But there are also very real First Amendment interests implicated by laws which bar entities from spending money to express political viewpoints.'

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/01/22/citizens_united

That's a real ringing endorsement, lol.
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:23 PM
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20. Youtube - Greenwald Vs. Lessig On Citizens United
Edited on Thu May-05-11 11:23 PM by TomCADem
Guess who is for and against Citizens United?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHr0wiobav4

Need a hint? Here is Prof. Lessig:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lawrence-lessig/a-principled-and-pure-fir_b_439082.html


Salon's Glenn Greenwald is just about the most persistent and effective critic of money in politics today. He is among the least starry-eyed reporters studying Congress. But his essay defending the Court's judgment in Citizens United would have been better had he sprinkled a bit of the skepticism he has for Congress on the words penned by the Court. For the story of the First Amendment in the Supreme Court's hands is not quite as pretty as Greenwald would tell it.

The First Amendment, Greenwald tells us, is an absolute. It applies not to "persons"; it "simply bans Congress from making any laws abridging freedom of speech." This law plainly banned these entities -- whether persons or not -- from a freedom of speech. Ergo, this law is, and should have been found to be, unconstitutional.

* * *
My point is not that the state's power to condition should be unlimited. The point instead is that it's not so simple, or absolute, as Greenwald would have it. And given the true complexity of these evolving and complicated doctrines, it is certainly fair to be critical in the extreme of this decision by the Court, favoring speech that most believe it naturally likes (unlike abortion-speak), in a decision that ignores the judgment of Congress about the conditions under which the integrity of that body, or any election, proceeds.

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VeryConfused Donating Member (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:40 PM
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32. That's absolutely correct
Plus he doesn't even have a horse in this race as he doesn't live in the USA
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 09:10 PM
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40. Let us remember why he doesn't live in the US
since you chose to use his living in Brazil to make a cheap shot. Greenwald met, and married a Brazilian man. But despite the fact he is legally married to this man he can't bring him here since gays are second class citizens in this country.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:16 PM
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19. Glenn Greenwald is a human rights advocate & puts his name on what he says
whether you agree with him or not, he has stood against torture, stuck up for Wikileaks, stuck up for Bradley Manning.

He has alot of guts and sticks his neck out there without having to use a pseudonym.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:58 PM
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22. Only the "human rights" that benefit him and his "victimhood".
Don't be fooled.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 10:36 AM
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28. What "victimhood" might that be? n/t
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 06:07 PM
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37. He also puts his name on the checks he gets for producing this garbage.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:55 PM
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21. I read the piece, and I followed that link to the original article
that Greenwald wrote. I think Deaniac83 let him off easy! The very first paragraph pissed me off to no end:

The killing of Osama bin Laden is one of those events which, especially in the immediate aftermath, is not susceptible to reasoned discussion. It's already a Litmus Test event: all Decent People -- by definition -- express unadulterated ecstacy at his death, and all Good Americans chant "USA! USA!" in a celebration of this proof of our national greatness and Goodness (and that of our President). Nothing that deviates from that emotional script will be heard, other than by those on the lookout for heretics to hold up and punish. Prematurely interrupting a national emotional consensus with unwanted rational truths accomplishes nothing but harming the heretic (ask Bill Maher about how that works).


{emphasis added}

WTF? Greenwald obviously doesn't understand what this means, or why anyone would be celebrating it other than "Nationalistic Bloodlust". And then he sets himself up as a martyr or "heretic" (victim) of anyone who disagrees with him.

Ego.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 07:08 AM
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23. I know people don't like Greenwald, but how is he creepy?
maybe this person is creeped out by gay people. :shrug:
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VeryConfused Donating Member (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 07:13 AM
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24. Has Greenwald ever produced anything more than hot air
maybe when Glenn has a real accomplishment to his credit (like taking out America's greatest enemy) he will have the gravitas to toss out baseless criticism. Until then, he is nothing but a useless blow hard.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 10:22 AM
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27. That's a ridiculous answer, no matter whether one disagrees with him or not
You could say that about anyone.

Is he anymore lacking in credibility than anyone else who is not a high, elected official who does not have some historical accomplish, to their credit?

Are you saying everyone else who is a journalist or in any other job has no "accomplishments" to their credit?

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VeryConfused Donating Member (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 11:34 AM
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30. "You could say that about anyone."
Not only could we, we SHOULD be. We should be looking at the accomplishments of those that insist on sharing their criticisms. Glenn is like the guy off the street that wonders into a hospital's surgery street and starts critiquing the brain surgeon in the middle of an operation.

Accomplishments matter and goes a long way to determining if a critic's opinions are worth listening to.
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DisgustipatedinCA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:31 PM
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31. Fair enough. What are your accomplishments?
By the standard you've outlined, what grounds do you have that render your opinion worthy?
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 05:31 PM
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34. So that means the article cited in the OP is also useless and invalid.
I get it. Only those in power have the right to express an opinion or analysis.

Sounds a lot like 1984....Or at least the GOP's vision for America
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Ramulux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 05:04 PM
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33. I have an idea
Who dont you explain why he is wrong rather than attacking him personally?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 07:37 AM
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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 10:37 AM
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29. Now GDP is a place to simply trash Greenwald?
This should be in Editorials and other Articles. Unrec.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 05:34 PM
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35. Count me as one of them. n/t
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 06:04 PM
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36. It must be terrible being that decent.
Glenn walks alone. Or at least he does in his fantasies.
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