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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 02:34 PM
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Bill Clinton to Dems: nothing to see here, move along.
Clinton, speaking at a fiscal summit sponsored by the Peter G. Peterson Foundation, said the race showed that voters don't like the Republican plan.

But he also told Democrats not to shy away from tackling entitlement programs.
"You shouldn't look at the New York race and think that nobody can do anything to slow Medicare costs," Clinton said.
http://money.cnn.com/2011/05/25/news/economy/bill_clinton/?section=money_latest

yeah that's the ticket! Walk away from the winning issue, don't make the Democratic Party the party that protects medicare and social security. No that would be all class warfarey and icky populist. Better to propose cuts that are kinder and gentler and continue down the republican-lite road.
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Eagle Mall Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 02:36 PM
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1. Bill is no longer the Head of the Democratic Party.
His time has passed.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 02:47 PM
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3. The Blue Dogs have been in decline for at least the last 5 years.
So yeah, he represents an increasingly unpopular political strategy.
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jezebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 02:43 PM
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2. I'm trying not to be reflexive here, but what was he thinking? nt
Edited on Wed May-25-11 02:47 PM by jezebel
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Viking 1 Donating Member (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 03:26 PM
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6. Remember the SC primary?
I remember asking the same question.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 02:52 PM
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4. Clinton, speaking at a fiscal summit sponsored by the Peter G. Peterson Foundation
Is he still in league with those conservatives?

Thats sad.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 03:43 PM
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7. 'Obamacare' lowers Medicare costs, yet the Republicans want to block that part of the ACA. Bill's
not recommending we privatize Medicare a la Paul Ryan's plan--or, for that matter, Social Security--which Clinton full well knows can be easily fixed without privatizing and is in far less peril than Medicare.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 03:49 PM
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9. Ezra Klein: Paul Ryan's Medicare Plan is Not Bill Clinton's
Paul Ryan’s Medicare plan is not Bill Clinton’s fault
By Ezra Klein

Of late, Paul Ryan has adopted the curious tactic of blaming his Medicare plan on Bill Clinton. Back in April, he said a version of his plan was “endorsed by everyone from President Clinton’s 1999 Medicare commission, chaired by Democrat John Breaux, to Bob Dole and Tom Daschle in 2009.” This week, he said his plan is “in keeping with the Bill Clinton bipartisan commission.” It’s a good argument. The only problem? It’s not true.

And it’s not true on a couple of different levels. First, as FactCheck.org says, “any attempt to cast the 1999 report as bipartisan or suggest it was Clinton’s commission is misleading.” The commission was created in the Balanced Budget Act of 1997, which was written by and passed through a Republican Congress. Clinton appointed just four of the commission’s 17 members — all of whom voted against the final plan. So it wasn’t “the Bill Clinton bipartisan commission.”

Second, the commission failed: It needed 11 votes and only got 10, eight of them from Republicans. As the New York Times reported, “The commission ended its work without endorsing any recommendations.” The Democrats by and large opposed the plan. And that includes President Clinton, who released a statement warning that the proposal “falls short” and promising to counter with a plan of his own. So to say this plan was “endorsed” by the commission is flatly wrong.

Finally, it was a very different plan. The idea of giving Medicare beneficiaries a choice of private plans in addition to traditional Medicare fee-for-service — in wonk parlance, “premium support” — does have Democratic backers. Some months ago, in fact, I interviewed Henry Aaron, a center-left health-care expert who is one of the idea’s creators. And he said the problem with Ryan’s plan is that it’s not premium support.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/paul-ryans-medicare-plan-is-not-bill-clintons-fault/2011/05/19/AGmLXQBH_blog.html#pagebreak
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Citizen Worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 02:54 PM
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5. Clinton is carrying the water for the DLC and providing plausible deniability for Obama.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 03:47 PM
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8. Doing Wall Street's bidding.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 12:45 AM
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10. Problem #1 is being at such a function for any other purpose than to give them fire and brimstone.
Fucking Peterson Foundation. May as well pal around with Kochs and the CoC.
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