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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 06:32 AM
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Valerie Garrett: The President is prepared to do something BOLD!!!
She was just on Joe Madison show she didn't go into detail as to what that bold is.
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TBMASE Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 06:38 AM
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1. capitulation
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 06:44 AM
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2. Hey! Welcome to DU!
:hi:
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 07:18 AM
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6. Hey, welcome to the fringe.
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great white snark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 12:25 PM
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23. .
Bwahaha
:rofl:
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 02:14 PM
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42. But in a thread in GD you don't want the 14th Amendment used
Edited on Fri Jul-22-11 02:17 PM by Kingofalldems
by the President. What gives?
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 06:50 AM
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3. end the wars, cut defense by 25% bold?
or some other kind of bold?
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 07:02 AM
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4. Ending the wars and $80 billion in cuts would be about that
$250 Billion out of ~$800 billion...
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 12:27 PM
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24. oh no, he's going to miss with the entitlements. he would never
do something that makes liberal sense.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 07:13 AM
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5. Oooh...I hope it's REALLY bold!
What do you think it will be?

Ending all 3 current wars?
Raising taxes on the wealthy?
Cutting the bloated defense budget?
A massive jobs program?
Infrastructure spending?
Closing Gitmo?

I'd be more happy to hear that he wanted to do what was RIGHT and not what was bold and would get the beltway media talking about him favorably, since in that context (which seems to be his preferred context) it usually means punching hippies and pissing off his base. That's what passes for BOLD.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 07:21 AM
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7. 6 if you include the secret ones
Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 07:27 AM
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8. Nah, those things are not going to happen. More likely
he is referring to cuts to entitlement programs which, in reality, would be quite Bold for someone calling themselves a Democrat.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 07:34 AM
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10. "Time for old people to eat their peas" nt
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 12:46 PM
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28. I can't believe that you were right all along
about using the weasel word "slash" as distinct from "cut." I was skeptical, but not any more.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 05:51 PM
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40. Thanks for remembering. I take it you saw this:
Edited on Fri Jul-15-11 05:51 PM by MannyGoldstein
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/The-Vote/2011/0707/Briefing-room-word-games-What-s-a-slash-versus-a-cut-in-Social-Security">Briefing room word games: What's a 'slash' versus a 'cut' in Social Security?

So, a reporter asked, what does “slash” mean?

“Haven’t you got, like, a dictionary app on your iPhone?” Carney replied.

Q: Well, it’s a word that you use instead of “cut.”

Carney: “Slash” is, I think, quite clear. It’s slash. It’s like that. (Carney makes a slashing motion with his hand.) It’s a significant whack.

Q: So it means a significant …

Carney: I’m not going to put a numerical figure on it.

Q: So it means a significant cut.

Carney: I think slashing is a pretty sharp, direct …

Q: It’s not the same thing as cutting – the point is, it’s not the same thing as “cut.”

Carney: It’s slash. (Laughter.) And I don’t mean the guitarist. (Laughter.)

Q: A pledge to not slash benefits is not the same thing as a pledge to not cut benefits.

Carney: I’m not – again, we’re talking about a policy enunciated by the president back in January, and that is …

Q: This is a diction you guys have chosen.

Carney: No, no, I get that, and we did choose it, and the president used it. But I’m not here to negotiate the semantics …

Q: Just so everybody understands – just so everybody understands, when you say “slash,” you don’t mean “cut.”

Carney: We have said that to address the long-term solvency of the problem – of the program, because this is not an issue that drives short- or medium-term deficits, that we would look – the president is interested in looking at ways to strengthen the program and enhance its long-term solvency that protects the integrity of the program and doesn’t slash benefits.

Q: Which is not the same thing as not cutting benefits.


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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 09:39 PM
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41. Yup
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 07:45 AM
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12. Exactly....
Bold at this point would be him supporting Democratic principles and policies rather than being under the delusion that BOLD meant given Republicans 90% of what they want and then yelling at Democrats for not applauding the 10% they got (and keep in mind in this context what they "got" usually means simply agreeing not to cut that 10% not actually gaining something).
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 11:14 AM
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16. Good post.
:thumbsup:
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 12:37 PM
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27. That's quite sad. You gave me a flashback to 2008.
Remember when we believed that those things were actually "on the table?"
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 07:32 AM
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9. Here's the video demonstrating his boldness:
Edited on Fri Jul-15-11 07:33 AM by MannyGoldstein
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 07:35 AM
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11. Jarrett is the one who called being gay a 'lifestyle' and other
nasty, backward ass, bigoted crap. She's part of the McClurkin hiring branch of the OFA crowd. So when she says bold you know it means something evil for the people, this woman is about as low and prejudiced as it gets, she does not even see all humans as equal beings, she is a bigot, she should not even be speaking for the 'President of Everybody' who is really just the President of Straights and Republicans.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 08:24 AM
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 11:59 AM
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20. +1000
I've followed her for over 20 years. She is mean, arrogant, rich, and holds working people in utter contempt.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 12:06 PM
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22. Oh brother.
:eyes:
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 12:35 PM
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26. So can we put you down in the "it's only one song" column?
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 12:54 PM
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29. You can put me in the "Do an expose if you have the facts" column.
The conspiracy theory rants are odd, especially when they're trotted out at the mere mention of someone's name on a totally unrelated topic.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 01:04 PM
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30. So we should never consider a person's past actions?
Why not, exactly? We do the very same thing with asshole Republicans, all the time--even when they're trying very hard to appear rational.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 05:20 PM
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39. Consider them as far as what?
She made a statement about the Debt Talks.

Is that negated? Is she an automatic liar about anything else she has to say because of her remark about "lifestyle choice"?

Do you hold Hillary Clinton responsible for her former Republican status? Or John Aravosis for working for Ted Stevens (who voted FOR a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage)?

OR, are the only unforgivable past actions those that involve President Obama, McClurkin and Warren?

Personally, I think that's the REAL deal for some: President Obama and all in his inner circle are, by virtue of his "association" with those two, part of some homophobic coven who are not to be trusted, the Administration's stance on LGBT rights and policy be damned. I think that's what all roads lead back to.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 01:57 PM
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34. McClurkin, every time. It's the all-purpose answer.
Not one person has heard a peep out this guy for years, but here, he's the Boogie Man.

Tiring.

Every single post, either McClurkin or Warren is the reason for all things Obama Evil, both of whom have faded into obscurity.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 07:46 AM
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13. Everybody get your hats. nt
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 09:03 AM
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15. Should I call my congressman??
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 11:22 AM
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17. Navy Seals en route to Cantor's compound.
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 11:24 AM
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18. Really.....bold. It's not in his toolbox.
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 12:03 PM
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21. Really?
Wow.
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great white snark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 12:31 PM
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25. Republicans started it and the far left happily adopted the "spineless" meme.
Tell the pirates and OBL that he's weak.

Tell insurance companies and wall street that he's spineless.

Tell the Supreme Court, which he stood before and lambasted on live tv, that he has no guts.
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admonish Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 02:00 PM
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35. Yer preaching to the choir....
....but the choir's singing condemnation so loud, they can't hear a word....
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 02:01 PM
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36. no, their meme is that he is dangerous
i listen to rw radio, the rhetoric is the opposite of what you say. They want people to fear Obama.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 02:01 PM
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37. They spent BILLIONS to defeat him.
You don't do that against a spineless, weak opponent.



But, the PL happily uses the very same memes promulgated by the Right.


Makes one wonder...
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great white snark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 04:56 PM
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38. One million dollars a day spent by the insurance industry to lobby against HCR.
Odd considering President Obama is in bed with them. Hell, they even wrote the bill.

Or so I read.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 11:58 AM
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19. Valerie Jarret is a fool
Bold to her would mean increasing the SS eligibility age to 75.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 01:11 PM
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31. I suspect it's the WH "Plan B" if Congress can't do its job. -nt
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 02:33 PM
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44. Could it be the BIG 14?
Big Dawg gave his approval but today Obama said his legal advisors said it would be difficult to justify.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 01:16 PM
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32. BOLD? Gee, Be Still My Heart... Not Buying It Though! IF Something Good
happens okay, but not holding my breath. HIS bold and mine, well they just aren't the same.

He may be going to DO something, but it may not be BOLD. I will say that my wish is that I am the one who is wrong. BOLD, we really need some BOLD!
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 01:29 PM
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33. To this WH "bold" usually means screwing the base and pushing Republican policies.
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blueclown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 02:20 PM
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43. Valerie Jarrett... a yes-woman if I've ever seen one.
Edited on Fri Jul-22-11 02:21 PM by blueclown
This woman has no set convictions, she doesn't believe in anything, all she is is a rubber-stamper for the President. If the President told her to jump off a cliff, she would.
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