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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:12 AM
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Did I just hear.. the President said he is willing to effect Medicare and SS
Edited on Fri Jul-15-11 10:14 AM by Peacetrain
by raising the caps?

Edit to add..by having those of a 1,000,000 and over paying more? I have three people talking at once here and I may have misunderstood. thanks in advance..
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Raine1967 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:14 AM
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1. I thought I heard that too!
I thought it was just me.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:15 AM
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2. Me too.. but I wasn't sure..
I am typing and three friends are talking at once and now we are all confused and not sure..
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:16 AM
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3. What I caught was that millionaires should pay more for copays nt
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Raine1967 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:17 AM
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4. That's JUST the way I understood it.
This is good stuff.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:37 AM
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12. I'm cool with that (until I have a million that is ;) ) nt
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Raine1967 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 02:49 PM
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16. HEH!
I'd still be cool with it.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:17 AM
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5. Yep that is what I thought I heard..
is that the same as raising caps?
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bornskeptic Donating Member (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:52 AM
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14. No. He's talking about Medicare.
There is no cap on income subject to the Medicare portion of payroll tax. I'm sure he would support raising the cap on SS taxable income to includ 90% of earned income, as advocated by all three deficit reduction proposals: Bowles-Simpson, Domenici-Rivlin, and Progrewssive Caucus. That would take the cap currently to about $180,000. But that would involve a considerable increase in revenue. It may be included in the big deal, but isn't in the $2 trillion deal.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:22 AM
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6. Yup-and he mentioned cuts in military spending several times, too. n/t
Edited on Fri Jul-15-11 10:23 AM by jenmito
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:24 AM
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8. I missed that one !
Thanks Jen.. I am going to try and listen a little closer to this
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:27 AM
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10. No problem...
he'll probably mention it again. :)
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:23 AM
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7. Yes, that's what he said - via "means testing"
In other words, can those (LIKE HIMSELF, as he regularly points out), who can afford to pay more in those costs when they become eligible do so?
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Raine1967 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:32 AM
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11.  HE keeps repeating this. Maybe people will listen?
This is more than fair to me.

EVEN for Medicare.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:45 AM
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13. If you're over 65 and very wealthy you can afford a bit more considering
the estate tax has been ridiculously low so children will not lose out and you can't take it with you!
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 03:03 PM
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18. I like how he keeps pointing to himself...
When he mentions people who can afford to give a little more.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:26 AM
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9. He also pointed out that the polls are overwhelmingly on his side (that the richest 2% should
sacrifice).
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 03:04 PM
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19. They have the most wealth...
But generate only 30% of the tax revenue, for example. 2% of the wealth left to the rest of us generates 70% of the tax revenue.
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Robbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 11:14 AM
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15. Obama
If you actually watch when he speaks and don't just listen to out of context small bites from the MSM or listen to unnamed sources
you will feel better.He also mentions how the so called balance budget amends could be worse than the Ryan Plan.

He would make the rich pay more.Raise caps on what the Rich pay In Social Security.Ene tax brakes for corporations.He talks about
cutting Military spending.He talks about cutting programs we don't need.He talks about how health care reform can save money to medicare.The MSM only wants to pay clip of him saying he can't guarantee Social Security checks going out on August 3.He also today talked about extending the Payroll tax Cuts and Unemployment.

80 percent of American People support the Obama approach of half Spending cuts and half raising taxes on Rich/ending tax breaks on
corporations.

what we will probably end up with because despite what the Tea Party wants the rich who control Republican party won't risk an economic collapse are

A:Raising the Debt Limits with commission looking at future Spending cuts which may not go anywhere
B:Cutting 1 Trillion In spending(Much lower that what Republicans wanted and less In SS,Medicare,and Medicaid) and the Debt Limit Is raised.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 03:02 PM
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17. Right on...
Anyone can take sound bites and make things sound worse than they are. Cherry picking is the worst, most evil tactic ever used by the GOP and their minions.

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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 05:50 PM
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20. I really think he needs to use terms like "Tax the wealth at a higher percent"
instead of "the republican don't want revenue increases". Although I'm no expert, I think a little class warfare at this time would be great.
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