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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 01:17 PM
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Poll question: Should they release OBL's death photo? (to simplify the # of posts)
Please let us know why you voted as you did if you wish to.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 01:19 PM
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1. Other: I'm content to let the administration decide what to do.
I'm sure there are issues I don't know about. It's not my call.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 01:21 PM
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3. That's my thought also, but you know DUers and their opinions, including me
sometimes I don't have a strong opinion, this is one of those times.
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nykym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 01:20 PM
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2. Releaseing the photos may serve to satisfy
the blood lust cravings of some but it will do more to martyr Bin laden and aid recruitment's for Al Queda
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 01:24 PM
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4. IMHO 95% of those who don't believe he's dead now won't believe any
differently upon seeing his death pics. They wouldn't believe it if you threw his remains in their faces.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 01:26 PM
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5. We are being spared the overuse of a disgusting picture
So many around the world want to make a buck not to mention get recruits.

It would have appeared in video games, etc.

Sadly, the internet and a lower level of taste and restraint make it impossible to release the photos without an irresponsible usage.

There's not much upside.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 01:51 PM
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16. Agree--not the time
Edited on Wed May-04-11 01:55 PM by marions ghost
The potential for exploitation & profit from obscene images (whether for recruiting or not) is a fact of life now. It is best to limit that, at least for a while. There is nothing to gain and lots to lose by making them public now.

Everywhere we looked, for the indefinite future--we would see Osama's shot up face. The way images proliferate now really has to be considered as far as societal effects, and I mean re. this country, not only in the Islamic world.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 01:26 PM
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6. I tend to go with transparency in most things and I think they should
go ahead - they are going to get leaked anyway. Another poll could take guesses on how long till they are out, along with the raid videos.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 01:28 PM
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7. I can understand the reasoning for both ways. If shrub were still pres, I wouldn't trust him
and want them released, whether or not I looked at them. Simply because Obama is president doesn't mean they are trustworthy, though I do trust them much more than the previous adminstration, wayyyyyyyyyy more.

Showing the photos might help some believe it actually happened. However, there are those who would not believe it even with photos released.

Releasing the photos would inflame some who are looking for that excuse.

Those who believe it is true, Osama is dead, will believe it is true, with or without photos.
Those who do not believe it is true will not believe with or without photos.

I am content to let this administration decide what to do with the photos.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 01:29 PM
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8. Of course it should be released. We're not children. n/t
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lilyin Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 01:31 PM
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9. Absolutely not
President Obama is showing tremendous restraint and maturity in not giving in to the conspiracy idiots. There is plenty of other proof so the U.S. doesn't have to lower itself to the level of barbarians who parade the photos of dead victims for some kind of ghoulish pleasure. Deathers who think this is a lie - wouldn't believe what they see anyway.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 01:34 PM
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10. Why on Earth do you think conspiracy idiots are the only ones
interested in this material?

Have you ever seen the paperback edition of the Warren Report? It had graphic images in it, too, and those were used by all kinds of people -- journalists, historians, biographers, academics of all kinds.
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lilyin Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 01:39 PM
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11. But, there was no doubt
that Kennedy was shot - everyone saw it on the TV. The situation is completely different.

So, maybe the photos of bin laden will be released many years from now. That won't cause more anger and hatred against us as it would if they were released now.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 01:42 PM
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14. There were and are all kinds of theories about that death
and people were even more upset about it than they are now about bin Laden.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 01:40 PM
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12. Yes, I think the funeral pictures should be released Sept 11, 2101.
Edited on Wed May-04-11 01:41 PM by HereSince1628
I can't imagine how inflammatory a sheet-covered corpse going overboard might prove, but I do think that way down the road it should be released.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 02:18 PM
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19. I agree
I think a full report of this needs eventually to be released. I mean JFK death photo's were released eventually. Does it need to be released now... no, but eventually it's our government information it should eventually become public.
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 01:40 PM
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13. I voted no, but it doesn't matter
I think the photos will leak. I'm sure senior politicians have copies. CIA has copies, and Panetta has stated he wants them released.

So now I'm leaning "yes", just so the White House would get to choose the timing and method of their release.

Not a big deal, either way.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 01:45 PM
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15. I like Frenchie's
suggestion, let WikiLeaks release them at a later date. Those that want to see them will be able to, and Obama will have not compromised his convictions.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 02:09 PM
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17. Yes. I'm not as interested in seeing it as I am getting certain people to STFU.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 02:15 PM
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18. It wouldn't do any good
Right wingers and other conspiracy nuts just move the goalposts.

We'd be faced with a deluge of idiots yapping about pixel counts (when they can't count, themselves) and other "evidence" that the photos were faked.

Meanwhile, they all fell into line with Stupid and Cheney when they said bin Laden was dead or living in a cave with a dialysis machine.

You can't fix stupid. You can only try to stop feeding it.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 09:27 PM
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20. That is my thought. Those that would use it rally around and riot/etc don't need it. Those that woul
would use it to say "oh no, it isn't him" conspiracy stuff don't need it. I thought he was dead by now, was very surprised to find out he wasn't. And glad he isn't.
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 09:33 PM
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21. Interesting results. Your poll is currently at 37% Yes, 58% No. My poll yesterday, same question
is currently at 55% Yes, absolutely, while only 21% voted No way / Absolutely not.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1026578

I wonder what accounts for the results being so different?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 09:39 PM
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23. A day? Different people voting? I went and voted there. You gave more options.
I am simple minded here.
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 09:38 PM
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22. No. The government never lies. I don't need them to show evidence. I take them at their word.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 09:42 PM
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24. I would not have looked at it anyway
and I tend to think people underestimate the power of images. I do not think that anything good would come of it.
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