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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 02:58 PM
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Homeless man jailed for moving from dumpster
Homeless man jailed for moving from dumpster

Charles Mader listed his address as a dumpster at 8th and Central in Albuquerque. As a convicted sex offender he must give the Bernalillo County Sheriff's Department a physical address where he stays, so detectives can keep track of him. Mader is convicted of trying to rape a six year old boy.

Mader lists the dumpster because he is homeless, but BCSO detectives say Mader moved from the dumpster and didn't report the move within ten days. That violates his sex offender registration requirements.

Mader also must re-register with BSCO every 90 days. Detectives say he failed to do that, too.

On Monday, five deputies hunted for Mader and found him at a homeless facility north of downtown. Detectives on the scene were frustrated with Mader saying they have told him over and over again to register.

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KOB Eyewitness News 4 is told Mader moved from the dumpster to an abandoned building across the street from where deputies arrested him.

http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S2095134.shtml?cat=504
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:36 PM
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:44 PM
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2. Jail too crowded - had to make room for pot smokers. nt
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 07:44 PM
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5. I am assuming he already served some time for that crime.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 04:27 PM
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3. What is this monster doing free in the first place?
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 04:42 PM
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4. five deputies hunted for him,
wtf is up with that? Put an ankle bracelet on him, install a chip like you would on a dog. Problem solved.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 07:46 PM
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6. New headline: Sex offender refused to register his new home which is a homeless shelter
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 08:07 PM
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7. TWICE-convicted sex offender refuses to register - convictions in 2000 and 1996
From a very quick search; he may have more history. Was brought to attention of authorities now after hanging out at a school playground.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 08:11 PM
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8. Makes a big difference, this headline and the OP one. Thanks
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 08:15 PM
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9. So, he goes to a shelter, which is what everyone wants, and is then in close contact with
women and children. Not a problem, right?

Or, he is on the street, nobody knowing his history.

What the hell is it going to take for this country to get it together and make SURE everyone has a HOME?
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 10:39 PM
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10. He should have a home, rotting in jail. Focus is in the wrong place in this article.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 10:44 PM
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11. The point is, that if he was legally released, then he should have a place to live,
There should be half-way houses or the like for people in this situation.

If he was NOT legally released, then obviously he should be trotted back to jail.

The scope of this article isn't about whether he got the right sentence or not... it is about him (and probably many others in this situation) being Out On The Street And In Shelters.

WRONG. Just WRONG. On so many levels.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 11:04 PM
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12. Badly written article. Why are people who repeatedly rape children released from prison?
His kind cannot function tolerably in society and cannot be made to do so. We fancy ourselves too "humane" to just kill him and be done with it, so better to lock him in a cage for life and hire another to watch him for life.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 11:06 PM
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13. As usual, no matter what I say, or how reasonably I say it, you are going to argue on something
completely different.

Have at it. It was a mistake to reply.

Good night.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 11:09 PM
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14. You have your issues; I have mine
Why should he have a home? He's a rapist of children. He can die in the street, and quickly, too if he has any decency at all.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 11:37 PM
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20. So you do support the Death Penalty. nt
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 11:53 PM
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22. Have someone read post #12 to you.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 11:35 PM
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19. Well then, change the goddamn laws. nt
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 11:54 PM
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23. I'm fucking trying.
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Oasis_ Donating Member (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 11:11 PM
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15. So after the halfway house
is a twice convicted sexual offender entitled to housing at the taxpayer's expense? (post release from prison)?

Why in the world should the taxpayer's give this scumbag a free place to live? I'm not comprehending the logic employed in advocating this.

Oasis
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 11:14 PM
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16. I hope you are willing to hear, if I explain it one more time...
Many People Are Homeless. You do know that, right?

So there are women and children living on the street, in their cars, in shelters.

Should THEY be subjected to someone like this?

I am assuming that you do understand that homeless women and children are even MORE vulnerable than women and children who have homes. Right?

Can you grasp this?

WE don't deserve to be at the mercy of a sex offender because you want to seek revenge on him.

It is THAT SIMPLE.
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Oasis_ Donating Member (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 11:24 PM
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17. I understand that, bobbolink
Edited on Wed May-04-11 11:26 PM by Oasis_
I really really do. Should the homeless be subjected to this sub-human filth? No, absolutely not. But the taxpayers shouldn't be rewarding him with a free place to live--where he could potentially lure even more victims.

Honest, law abiding citizens deserve housing, and as well all know it's in demand. But taxpayers should also have the right to weed out the deserving from the undeserving ( felonious criminal past, danger to society etc etc)

Oasis
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 11:29 PM
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18. Then what you are leaving is putting him to death. That's on YOUR head.
This "taxpayers" argument is what I expect from baggers, NOT "progressives".

You need to look closely at your own biases.
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Oasis_ Donating Member (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 11:37 PM
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21. Ok
Edited on Wed May-04-11 11:38 PM by Oasis_
Bobbolink, he chose his own course in life. I direct my empathy toward his victims. Whether or not he dies in the streets is of little matter to me. I'd rather try and assist the good people who've found themselves homeless and need assistance.

They are the people who deserve completely subsidized housing.

The scumbag assuredly does not, imo.

Oasis
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:10 AM
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25. Could you please HEAR what I am saying???
"Letting him die on the streets" IS consigning those you purport to care about to HIS actions... without ANY protections for *them*.

*I* live in my car... *I* am vulnerable to people like this. Can you please HEAR that?

What else can I say? It is so frustrating when people cannot and will not understand the ramifications for INNOCENT people in what they are proposing.

PLEASE. LISTEN.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:56 AM
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29. I understand what you're saying...
as the mom of a daughter who was sexually molested when she was a child, I have zero pity for the man who did it.

As it happens, the guy is married to one of my younger sisters.

They live in a different state but want to move back up here after being gone since 1985. They are both disabled. They are looking into subsidized housing for the elderly/disabled.

I think his ass belongs in jail, not roaming around the streets where he could...even at his age...molest again, and getting subsidized housing in the bargain.

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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 11:56 PM
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24. Soooo much more humane to cage him for life in a prison.
Edited on Wed May-04-11 11:58 PM by REP
Can anyone really believe that? Really? How very sad. How very cruel.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:49 AM
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27. Maybe he doesn't WANT a "place to live"
There's a guy in my area who often lives in his truck on the side of the road, or takes jobs acting as caretaker for homes of people who don't live in them all year. I believe he even has a small shack in the woods for times when he has a horse (which does have a home), usually during the winter. I've never seen the shack, but I have seen the trail through the snow that leads up to the hill where he stays with the horse.


The guy always looks happy. He's like a landmark and we always wave to each other in passing as he sits in his truck. He doesn't have a permanent address.

We don't know about that guy in the article, but it's quite possible he prefers the wandering life as well.

When my parents separated back in the mid 1960s my father stuck around for a bit, then took to the road. He traveled around the country with carnivals, stayed in shelters, sold blood (it was legal back then) and basically was homeless. It was what he wanted at the time.

I agree that everyone who wants a home should have one, but I think it's wrong to assume that everybody who is "out on the street" really doesn't want to be there.

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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:26 AM
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26. Another misleading headline...
He wasn't jailed because he moved from his dumpster.

He was jailed because he moved and didn't report it within ten days and he failed to re-register.



um...not directed at you...the article itself...
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Urban Prairie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:51 AM
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28. How can a "dumpster" be considered an "address" ?
Edited on Thu May-05-11 09:53 AM by Urban Prairie
And how did the detectives know that he "moved"?

Lifted up the dumpster's lid and call for him by name a couple of times day and night?

IMO, a homeless person than must report his whereabouts to the authorities should be given an AREA to call home, since being homeless certainly makes any overnight accommodations discovered just a little bit less than "permanent"

Perhaps the owner of the dumpster kicked him out or may have chained/locked it shut.

At any rate, if he ends up in jail for failure to report, seems to me that is the best place for him and the public, being convicted sex offender that likely hasn't been and can't be rehabilitated and perhaps will never be anything but an ever-present threat to young children who live and play within his roaming range.

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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:58 AM
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31. They knew he "moved"...
after noticing the mailbox and "Welcome" mat were gone...
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:56 AM
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30. So, a convicted sex offender was jailed for not notifying the police that he was moving
Seems pretty reasonable.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 02:28 AM
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32. cases like these are why i believe in tougher sentencing for sex offenders
i'd rather have dope-smoking hippies on the streets than perverts like Mader needing to re-register every so often while they're out on the streets doing whatever and possibly harming more people than they already have
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 02:32 AM
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33. More like: "Sex offender jailed for not reporting new address" nt
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shoutinfreud Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 02:34 AM
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34. No, we was arrested for not reporting an address change
He should have thought of these kinds of hardships before trying to rape a little boy.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 02:41 AM
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35. That he was allowed to register a dumpster as an address is disgusting
No matter what he did, and despite any question of whether he should have been released, that fact speaks volumes...
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