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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 09:22 PM
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Could the Bin Laden raid have revealed a secret new helicopter?
A picture of the tail rotor of the chopper that the Navy Seals' Team Six detonated revealed unfamiliar features. Reports say it could be a new, secret helicopter.
When the Team Six members reached Osama bin Laden's compound in Abbottabad one of the choppers made a "controlled but hard landing," according to reports, probably due to higher than expected temperatures.

Temperatures affects the density of the air, and low density makes it harder for the rotor to sustain the weight of the chopper, especially if it was near its maximum weight (being packed with soldiers and fuel to fly in from Afghanistan). Abbottabad is about 1200 meters above the sea level, and altitude also affects air density.

So what machine exactly experienced the hard landing described above? Short answer: we don't know for sure. Long answer: It seems that the tail rotor visible in the picture belongs to a highly modified version of the H-60, the chopper of choice of the special forces for more than 30 years. Aviation Week doesn't beat around the bush, claiming: "A previously undisclosed, classified stealth helicopter apparently was part of the U.S. task force that killed Osama bin Laden in Pakistan on May 1."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20110504/us_time/httpnewsfeedtimecom20110504couldthebinladenraidhaverevealedasecretnewhelicopterxidrssfullnationyahoo



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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 09:29 PM
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1. Interesting!
I was wondering why and how the helicopter crashed when everything else seemed to go flawlessly.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 09:31 PM
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2. What is it with helicopters and nighttime commando raids?
I've been in helicopters, including one that made a (very) hard landing, so I know they're just a tad unreliable. But why does this always seem to happen whenever we're engaged in some supersecret national existentialist raid?
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 09:32 PM
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3. Not so secret anymore...
ABC suggested that parts of the wreckage are already on their way to China.
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dems_rightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 09:35 PM
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4. It doesn't appear that it could hold many people.
Very small, from that perspective anyway.
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 09:39 PM
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6. That's just the tail rotor pictured, not the fuselage
Not many people fit in any tail rotor...
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dems_rightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 09:40 PM
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8. LOL- thanks! N/T
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Vehl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 09:43 PM
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11. The rest of the coptor was burnt/demolished by the crew
The tail survived cos it was supposedly on the outside of the compound
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 09:38 PM
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5. hmm. This seems like a conspiracy theory in the making
Yahoo was running this story and they are v. right wingy
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 09:39 PM
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7. It's a serious piece of hardware--- Check it out, it was a Secret Stealth Blackhawk:
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 09:43 PM
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10. Well I suppose it no longer is a secret
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 09:43 PM
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9. Considering that it crashed, I'm not impressed
The first requirement of any aircraft is that it, you know, remains in the air.
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 10:00 PM
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12. I do love the hardware.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 04:04 AM
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13. My husband, a huge airplane fan, is wondering why the
sound of the helicopters did not alert people in the compound.

I have the theory that, as here in LA, that area probably had a lot of helicopters flying overhead from time to time so that Osama Bin Laden did not suspect anything unusual.

But it is also possible that the helicopter was quieter than expected.

I, of course, have no clue -- just theories and perhaps sometimes an overactive mind.

These kinds of questions fascinate me.
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