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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:12 AM Original message |
This pisses me off: Obama floats plan to tax cars by the mile |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
1. while at the same time governments cut money available for mass transit? |
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DFab420 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
2. Try not to get pissed about an undated unsent draft memo... |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
3. if they use the money to fund public transport, I am all for it |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:16 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. so you don't mind how intrusive something like this is? |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:21 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Why is it more intrusive than gasoline tax? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:24 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. tracking distance driven is inherently more intrusive |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:44 AM Response to Reply #15 |
44. I believe there should be a trade off then |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
5. I think that is simply an "in" for tracking all our movements by car |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:19 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. so do I. and yes, it's inherently unfair |
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JackintheGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
6. And what about those who spend more time sitting in traffic on over-capacity roadways? |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
7. This actually doesn't bother me, plus I think there's nothing wrong |
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FSogol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:20 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. +1 I agree. n/t |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:21 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. it's unfair and intrusive. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:23 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. You seem to know exactly how it will be implemented so please explain how it will work. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:25 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. did I say that? No, of course not, but thanks ever so for putting your fucking words |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:56 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. This concept has been floated time and again... |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
12. Gasoline tax is ALREADY a vehicle-miles-traveled tax |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:09 AM Response to Reply #12 |
30. yes, but you can't collect as much tax |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:12 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. That's true - but wouldn't they want to incentivize people to use those vehicles? |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:22 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. they SHOULD be trying to incentivize people to buy more fuel efficient cars |
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S_E_Fudd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:29 AM Response to Reply #31 |
38. Well there are federal tax breaks... |
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NightWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
14. Let's tax corporate jets by the mile and leave the guy driving to the factory alone |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:40 AM Response to Reply #14 |
23. +1 |
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Gravel Democrat (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 02:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
50. +100 |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
16. This reeks of BS |
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CanonRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
17. This really punishes rural people |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:26 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. yep and I certainly hope so. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
19. Tax the rich peoples' playplanes instead. nt |
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TransitJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
21. As someone who drives a LOT for work (1500 miles/month) |
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mn9driver (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
22. Minnesota floated this idea recently. It went down in flames. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
24. Gas taxes are supposed to pay for road repairs |
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S_E_Fudd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
26. I think the idea behind this may be... |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:03 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I highly doubt in this economic chaos if people will be purchasing |
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S_E_Fudd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:21 AM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Well given this is just a study... |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
27. There goes the rural vote |
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Azathoth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
29. So after gas hits $4 and Apple gets caught invading people's privacy, they decide to float this idea |
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DBoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
32. What pisses me off is the motivation behind this |
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S_E_Fudd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:23 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Why? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:24 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. how about a tax per year on people who own electrics? |
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S_E_Fudd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:30 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Might be... |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
33. I don't like this. Even just as a trial balloon. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
40. Hybrid and electric cars are becoming more popular. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:38 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. That makes sense--I hadn't considered that. |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
41. This is not fair. Some of us have no options other than to travel by car because our public trans |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 02:49 PM Response to Reply #41 |
51. That would be an unfair tax on the rural poor. (n/t) |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
43. Cali, I didn't htink you'd get much support on this post but I agree wholeheartedly. |
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VenusRising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
45. Be pissed at the REPUBLICAN proposing it. |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
46. I believe that was floated as a way for the EV's to pay road taxes too |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
47. An option that was thought of before electronic tracking devices |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
48. What a stupid idea and it's perfect fodder for Republicans. |
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zbdent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
49. don't like it at all ... |
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