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Spike89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 01:59 PM Original message |
Found our first pirated e-book today |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
1. But don't you understand? Your information should be free! |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 02:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Pity there's no way to imbed a trojan horse bomb in |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 02:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. Because the appropriate response to copyright violation is vandalism and destruction of property? |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Yep, seriously. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 02:58 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. I didn't destroy anything. The software simply encrypted the data |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:45 PM Response to Reply #17 |
50. "Pity there's no way to... permanently disable the device if the material was pirated." |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 06:55 PM Response to Reply #50 |
118. It is, but there's no way to do that via an ebook, so it's |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:21 PM Response to Reply #118 |
121. Doesn't matter. It's still an inappropriate response. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 03:06 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. No, actually the appropriate response is prosecution for the |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:40 PM Response to Reply #12 |
99. Deleted message |
MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 08:31 AM Response to Reply #99 |
158. What's your point? |
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JustABozoOnThisBus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 06:59 AM Response to Reply #12 |
153. Plenty of precedence ... |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
29. If you do that people will refuse to buy your products. |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:47 PM Response to Reply #3 |
53. Thanks for explaining why I don't use closed source software. |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 06:05 AM Response to Reply #53 |
151. I like your style, kid. |
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zonkers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 09:55 AM Response to Reply #53 |
161. Wow. Enlightening post. So you use freeware exclusively? PC based only, right? |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 01:45 PM Response to Reply #161 |
173. Free and Open Source software. |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:38 PM Original message |
Surprise, surprise. |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
125. Point is, you bought the book. It's your property. |
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Spike89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
171. And keeping a copy at the same time? |
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Spike89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 02:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Funny thing is, that is basically our mission! |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #5 |
34. It's flattery |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
33. It's flattery |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 04:01 PM Response to Reply #33 |
180. Flattery don't pay the bills. |
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geardaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 01:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
174. +1 |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
2. I'm sorry to hear that. |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
4. Unfortunately, you knew it had to happen... |
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Spike89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 02:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. Yeah, we'd hoped being "fringe" would help |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:52 PM Response to Reply #13 |
59. I think you'll be all right with this |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
6. Welcome to the club. |
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Betty88 (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
7. Can I ask what makes ebooks so expensive to create? |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 02:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Theoretically, nothing. |
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Betty88 (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 02:53 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Thank you |
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Spike89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 03:55 PM Response to Reply #14 |
25. Very concise and good explanation! |
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Kurska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 02:08 AM Response to Reply #25 |
150. If most of your costs are in distribution why not just offer it for free for download? |
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Spike89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 01:41 PM Response to Reply #150 |
172. Most of our costs are NOT in distribution |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:31 PM Response to Reply #14 |
42. That logic only works for mass market books. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:44 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. Again, please read the actual content of my post before responding. |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:58 PM Response to Reply #49 |
64. I did read it. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:03 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. You seem to have skipped the area where I made the entire point about market size. |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:42 PM Response to Reply #14 |
47. Except for an author's labor for a year or more. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:43 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Maybe you should actually read my post. nt |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:47 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. "theoretically, nothing" |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:50 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. So you responded to the title without reading or understanding my point. Okay. nt |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 01:48 AM Response to Reply #47 |
148. You need to look up marginal cost. All digital media has zero marginal cost... |
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Spike89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 03:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. Glad you asked... |
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Modern_Matthew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
8. Unfortunately, I cannot download the world's smallest violin... nt |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 02:32 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Right. Have you ever spent 4-6 months of your life writing a book... |
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themadstork (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:20 PM Response to Reply #10 |
38. Yet if they're reading it. . . |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:21 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. A win for the reader, perhaps. |
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themadstork (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:30 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. I write books to be read |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:49 PM Response to Reply #41 |
56. So you think some workers don't deserve to make a living? |
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themadstork (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:57 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. Writing |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:51 PM Response to Reply #41 |
58. You can value yourself however you want. |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:53 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. People who work for free... |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:58 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Sounds about right. |
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themadstork (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:06 PM Response to Reply #60 |
71. A nicely pithy statement. . . |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:35 PM Response to Reply #71 |
90. Making a living and striking it rich are two different things. |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:50 PM Response to Reply #71 |
126. Poetry is a different kettle of fish. A very small audience. |
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Spike89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 01:58 PM Response to Reply #126 |
175. It is precisely these areas in peril |
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themadstork (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:01 PM Response to Reply #58 |
68. It's not an ego boost |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #68 |
86. I write to make a living. |
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themadstork (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:37 PM Response to Reply #86 |
93. I'm not saying you shouldn't be doing this |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:47 PM Response to Reply #93 |
102. Totally agree with you. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 01:40 AM Response to Reply #93 |
146. The industry used to be this place where only the most elite would get a publishing deal... |
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themadstork (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 10:08 AM Response to Reply #146 |
163. Well, there are still some editors that sell authentically great books at a loss for the prestige |
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mythology (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:55 PM Original message |
There is nothing good for a writer in having their material illegally obtained. |
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themadstork (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
73. Being read is undeniably good for the writer. |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:38 PM Response to Reply #73 |
95. But being paid for it is what feeds him |
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themadstork (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 06:05 PM Response to Reply #95 |
108. Does not change the fact that being read is still good for him/her |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 03:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
19. I'm sure you could... you'd simply try to get out of paying for it is all. |
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Electric Monk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
9. Excuse me for finding humor in seeing this other thread right next to yours on page 1 |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
11. Sorry. |
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cbdo2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
20. Which pirate site is it and what format is it in? Like a pdf or a special format? |
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Spike89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Yeah, a cracked PDF, can't tell at a glance which format was |
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cbdo2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Also, have you checked their takedown policy? |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
21. Welcome to the club. It happens to every author. |
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Leftist Agitator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 03:58 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. "...most pirates don't really read the books... They just do it to be pirates. |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:05 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Thank you for |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:38 PM Response to Reply #27 |
44. It's what authors and publishers have noted to be true |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 06:20 PM Response to Reply #44 |
112. And you think |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:40 PM Response to Reply #112 |
122. My point is that piracy doesn't matter as much anymore |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:01 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. Offer it at a fair price |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:00 PM Response to Reply #30 |
67. Like Wal-Mart prices? |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 10:59 AM Response to Reply #30 |
168. It is hard to beat free |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
26. Keep writing |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:14 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. You believe one necessarily denies the other? |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:18 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. I don't |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:12 PM Response to Reply #37 |
75. Who other than the author determines if profit of creativity has the higher priority... |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:19 PM Response to Reply #75 |
81. I didn't direct the comment of |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:23 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Frustrated by justifying theft? Yes. Rather. |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:32 PM Response to Reply #83 |
89. I don't see it as theft |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:37 PM Response to Reply #89 |
94. I imagine we all justify our own sins to one degree or another... |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:40 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. Justifying a sin? |
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themadstork (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #26 |
40. Yeah. Eventually I think 95% of all books will be sold at either pay-as-you-wish or |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:37 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. I am too :) |
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themadstork (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:48 PM Response to Reply #43 |
55. I think it's in the nature of books and reading to |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:59 PM Response to Reply #55 |
66. Wish there were a lot more people like you! |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:16 PM Response to Reply #66 |
78. I've read things by amateurs |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:31 PM Response to Reply #78 |
88. Asmimov, Shakespeare, Dickens, Douglas Adams, HC Andersen, Sauraute, Golding, Kafka worked for free. |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:36 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. Did they do it only for the money? |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:38 PM Response to Reply #91 |
96. You appear to be avoiding a question. |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:47 PM Response to Reply #96 |
103. I'm sure they did |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #91 |
97. But everyone needs to eat. |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #97 |
101. And I guess |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:54 PM Response to Reply #101 |
128. No. But they do get paid for it. |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:51 PM Response to Reply #78 |
127. You haven't read enough work by amateurs, then |
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themadstork (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:18 PM Response to Reply #127 |
130. Most professional work is dreadful. |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 10:58 AM Response to Reply #130 |
167. Most amateur work is even more dreadful |
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Spike89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 04:21 PM Response to Reply #127 |
182. So true! Also true, 1/2 the "professionals" can barely write |
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themadstork (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:16 PM Response to Reply #66 |
79. I think there are |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:37 PM Response to Reply #79 |
92. This is quite true... |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 06:33 AM Response to Reply #55 |
152. Lemme jump in here |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:40 PM Response to Reply #26 |
45. How do you make a living at it if you don't get paid? |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:46 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. I guess you want to be one of those "privileged" writers |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:55 PM Response to Reply #52 |
61. It's a "privilege" to be paid for one's labors? |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:13 PM Response to Reply #61 |
76. I work my ass off |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:07 PM Response to Reply #52 |
72. What do you do for a living? |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:12 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. I'm a writer first |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:17 PM Response to Reply #74 |
80. But your income, your profession, is engineering? |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:20 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Yes, to both |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:50 PM Response to Reply #82 |
104. And you should be aware that there is not a money earning artist |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 06:05 PM Response to Reply #104 |
109. I had a hard fight to even be an engineer |
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themadstork (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 06:11 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. There's also the fact that the "theft is theft" position is very much the pro-corporate position |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. No, you are correct, my friend |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 06:55 PM Response to Reply #110 |
117. buddy |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:42 PM Response to Reply #110 |
123. Theft from me is theft from me |
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themadstork (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:15 PM Response to Reply #123 |
129. Conflating theft of goods with copyright infringement |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:25 PM Response to Reply #129 |
135. +1, the corporations love that normal citizens fall for this meme. |
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themadstork (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:39 PM Response to Reply #135 |
138. Yeah. I saw once where a middle school had a recording industry rep come in |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:56 PM Response to Reply #138 |
140. It is a pure invention, last 10-15 years or so. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 10:00 PM Response to Reply #135 |
141. I just got my first reuse fees for digital media this week. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 01:34 AM Response to Reply #141 |
144. I would never take money from you. |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 07:06 AM Response to Reply #144 |
154. And if you pirate a self-published e-book? |
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themadstork (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 10:25 AM Response to Reply #141 |
164. If you wanted your work to remain "yours," you should have kept it to yourself. |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 10:49 AM Response to Reply #164 |
166. Does the inventor of a new drug lose all rights to the formula? |
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themadstork (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 12:11 PM Response to Reply #166 |
169. That doesn't disprove anything I said. |
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themadstork (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:13 PM Response to Reply #72 |
77. Because writing is the only work I can do? |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:25 PM Response to Reply #77 |
84. Thank you for expressing it so well |
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Spike89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:55 PM Response to Reply #26 |
62. Well, art isn't everything (though it is important!) |
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Spike89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 06:21 PM Response to Reply #26 |
113. Huge fallacy to think most writing is fiction/mass market |
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themadstork (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 06:33 PM Response to Reply #113 |
116. The same rules apply though |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:44 PM Response to Reply #116 |
124. So you're offered the product at a price or for free (stolen) |
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themadstork (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:33 PM Response to Reply #124 |
136. Make a really good product. Treat people well. Stay involved in the specialist community. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 01:36 AM Response to Reply #136 |
145. Better idea: write until your fucking fingers fall off. Write so much about so much... |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 07:11 AM Response to Reply #145 |
155. Write your fingers off for free? |
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themadstork (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 09:58 AM Response to Reply #155 |
162. It's also the nature of freelance writing. |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 10:45 AM Response to Reply #162 |
165. I make my living as a writer. Of course I understand its economy. |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
28. Welcome to the 21st century musician's and filmmaker's world. |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
31. Or you could have Neil Gaiman's outlook on piracy. |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:17 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. It's the focus on the short term |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:03 PM Response to Reply #36 |
70. Gaiman is also a fabulously wealthy author who has sold many |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:27 PM Response to Reply #70 |
85. That's what you got out of what I posted? |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:30 PM Response to Reply #70 |
87. Wow. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 06:25 PM Response to Reply #87 |
114. I'm not talking about him, I am talking about using him as an |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:19 PM Response to Reply #70 |
131. There are authors on Amazon who are making thousands of dollars... |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 10:29 PM Response to Reply #131 |
142. I'm not a writer for a living. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 01:30 AM Response to Reply #142 |
143. No, they got lucky. Look at Amanda Hocking. |
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geardaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
46. Report it here |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
51. Trying to take them down is like whack-a-mole |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
100. So how is a pirated ebook any different than... |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:51 PM Response to Reply #100 |
105. Thank you |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:57 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. You should go to jail you thief! |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:24 PM Response to Reply #105 |
134. Oh, you want value loss? How about buying books from a library? |
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themadstork (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:45 PM Response to Reply #134 |
139. This is a great example of how in the book world tremendous intellectual/artistic value can be |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 01:44 AM Response to Reply #139 |
147. Yeah, from my POV the more people I touch the better, it has nothing to do with profits. |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 07:13 AM Response to Reply #147 |
156. Fine. You're free to give it away. No one's stopping you. |
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Spike89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 06:32 PM Response to Reply #100 |
115. Well for starters...you bought the book |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 07:16 PM Response to Reply #115 |
119. What if I took said hypothetical book... |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:21 PM Response to Reply #119 |
133. Actually that would be infringement. |
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themadstork (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:37 PM Response to Reply #119 |
137. hehe. I do the bookstore thing all the time. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 01:50 AM Response to Reply #119 |
149. Yes. That is not a grey area at all. n/t |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:21 PM Response to Reply #115 |
132. Not if each 7 billion people legally made a copy of said book. |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
107. You know there's a lot of sites claiming lots of really good free downloads, except if you actually |
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Puglover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
120. What about books I have moldering away up in the attic |
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Mariana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 03:11 PM Response to Reply #120 |
176. It certainly is not wrong. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 03:59 PM Response to Reply #176 |
179. But you bought a VHS tape, |
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Spike89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #120 |
178. To be honest, yeah, wrong, but grey area |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 04:01 PM Response to Reply #120 |
181. Hmm...you're right. Hawaii isn't available. |
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octothorpe (358 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
157. What kind of book is it and who is the intended audience? |
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fasttense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
159. I don't understand why e-books would cost you so much to distribute. |
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Spike89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 03:36 PM Response to Reply #159 |
177. Answered above, but here it goes again... |
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Mrs. Overall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
160. This is such an informative thread--I'm a writer/publisher and my press will be releasing |
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Spike89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 01:07 PM Response to Reply #160 |
170. Thanks, and good luck to you and your publishing adventure! nt |
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