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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 02:49 PM Original message |
On conspiracy thinking and mistrust of the government |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
1. 'Conspiracism', Ma'am, Reflects the Degree To Which People Feel Powerless |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 03:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Absolutely |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
34. And folks have a good deal of PTSD methinks |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 10:54 PM Response to Reply #1 |
43. I think we need to define our terms precisely. Note that even the |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
2. You don't think we just killed OBL? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 03:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. I did not say that. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 03:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. I have to admit I was suspicious of Bush's efforts to protect us. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 03:16 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. I know where it comes from |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 03:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. There were legit sources countering Bush allegations on the centrifuges. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 03:38 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. no but that is exactly the meme the media used |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 03:42 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Well everyone has to take a look at the evidence for themselves. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
3. Two Harvard professors on conspiracy theories; it's a scholarly |
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Denninmi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
4. My opinion of distrust of the government is... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Oh this is much older than the Kochs |
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Distant Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 03:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Creating "Effective Narratives" is now very much part of how POWERS in this modern media world work |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 03:21 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. The gap is easier to explain than that |
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Distant Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 03:28 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Not really. Ex CIA Baer noted that 1st Story was standard "package," He approved |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 03:30 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. And it also had all the elements |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 03:34 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. It Also had the Elements, Ma'am, Of People Without Much Actual Knowledge Showing Off |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 03:39 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Too true |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 03:34 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. That's the problem |
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stockholmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. distrust of power,& an ability to recognize the meta-systemic memes of its structural control is NOT |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:05 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. most of the people engaged in real conspiracy theories |
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stockholmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:22 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. agreed, and the term 'conspiracy theory' has become a hammer(due to linkage with rot as you suggest) |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
11. My distrust of believing everything the govt has to do with one thing..EXPERIENCE. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 03:27 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Why I mentioned Tonkin and the WMDs |
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fivepennies (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:27 PM Response to Reply #11 |
35. I've got you beat by a few years |
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canoeist52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
15. Groups of people pool their resources |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
26. I met Dick Gregory once |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:29 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. I love DU, I learned about another person to admire |
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noise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
28. False equivalency |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 06:46 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. I question the war on terror and the war on drugs |
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noise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 07:08 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. It does look like he was killed |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 07:29 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Answers |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
29. conspiracy makes money these days |
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steve2470 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
33. From what I've read, the distrust of government really got fired up after Kennedy was assasinated |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:32 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. I think most of the country still trusted the government's "word" |
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steve2470 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:35 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Yes, Watergate was very pivotal. I came of age at that time of cynicism nt |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 10:35 PM Response to Reply #33 |
42. Most of the country STILL trusts the government |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
38. I get accused of being a conspiracy theorist all the time |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 10:33 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. It was a conspiracy in the LEGAL sense of the word |
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DeadEyeDyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
39. Okay, oaky I admit it |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 10:34 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Ok that was funny |
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